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    Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

      What if you had just pulled out the cables so that it looked like a power failure. Wouldn't that have fixed things, except for the corrupted VMs? Might have protected against that too, but that's just random.

      We didn't know at the time that the boot drive was dead on host1. So we weren't certain of the status of the cluster.

      Just that both systems had XAPI hung (vm's were running fine until we touched the cluster)

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

        @scottalanmiller said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

        What if you had just pulled out the cables so that it looked like a power failure. Wouldn't that have fixed things, except for the corrupted VMs? Might have protected against that too, but that's just random.

        We didn't know at the time that the boot drive was dead on host1. So we weren't certain of the status of the cluster.

        Just that both systems had XAPI hung (vm's were running fine until we touched the cluster)

        One of the risks of clusters, so much complexity. A single host you could have dropped to Xen directly and shut things down.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller Which is why we're going with the standalone servers using XO's continuous replication.

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          • Reid CooperR
            Reid Cooper
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            Wow, that's crazy. Glad that it recovered.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @Reid Cooper
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              @Reid-Cooper said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

              Wow, that's crazy. Glad that you had a recovery solution planned out, great job!

              I FTFY.

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

                @scottalanmiller Which is why we're going with the standalone servers using XO's continuous replication.

                Will you still use USB sticks for boot?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                  @FATeknollogee yes, have to.

                  Just have to make sure we keep our backup drive current, and we're moved away from the cluster approach, and using single servers with CR.

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee
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                    @DustinB3403 "Why" do you have to?

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                      @FATeknollogee said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

                      @DustinB3403 "Why" do you have to?

                      Well, at the moment I have to see if I can create two partitions on the same array with the equipment I have.

                      As of last night I couldn't find a way to do it.

                      I have to use LVM to create the partitions needed. Yet not sure how I'll be able to do that.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

                        @FATeknollogee said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

                        @DustinB3403 "Why" do you have to?

                        Well, at the moment I have to see if I can create two partitions on the same array with the equipment I have.

                        As of last night I couldn't find a way to do it.

                        I have to use LVM to create the partitions needed. Yet not sure how I'll be able to do that.

                        For at least the fifth time... we don't make partitions here, it's volumes. LVMs make volumes. I've corrected you every time you've used the word partitions. Partitions and volumes are not the same thing.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

                          I have to use LVM to create the volumes needed. Yet not sure how I'll be able to do that.

                          Resize what is there. Then lvcreate what you need.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            He doesn't have to, but in the emergency situation he was in yesterday, it was the fastest solution to getting himself back online.

                            I'm pretty sure we could get him running, this time only on the single HDD that's presented by the RAID controller.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              @scottalanmiller ffs, volumes

                              Running on minimal sleep, get off my back lol...

                              I need 2 logical volumes one to boot from, one to hold the data, and couldn't figure out how to do it last night.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

                                @scottalanmiller ffs, volumes

                                Running on minimal sleep, get off my back lol...

                                I need 2 logical volumes one to boot from, one to hold the data, and couldn't figure out how to do it last night.

                                If it only creates one when you install, then you resize it to make extra space and use lvcreate to make the new volume and then add that volume as an SR.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

                                  @scottalanmiller ffs, volumes

                                  Running on minimal sleep, get off my back lol...

                                  I need 2 logical volumes one to boot from, one to hold the data, and couldn't figure out how to do it last night.

                                  the volumes (is that the same as partitions?) were already there. XS created sba1, sba2 and sba3. sba3 was the majority of the disk. The issue was that XS wasn't automounting it as a SR and we don't know why not. My install on a 500 GB drive mounted automatically, his 14TB drive didn't, but it was clearly seen.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

                                    the volumes (is that the same as partitions?)

                                    I'm going to hunt you down.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

                                      XS created sba1, sba2 and sba3.

                                      Those are actual partitions, not volumes. It then makes volumes on top of the partitions.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

                                        The issue was that XS wasn't automounting it as a SR and we don't know why not.

                                        Because it was ext instead of LVM, we are pretty sure, I think.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          I have to start work on the host1, we can troubleshoot the issue from that unit.

                                          Although I'd really like to just get it going with CR.. . .

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

                                            @Dashrender said in Why HALizard and XenServer Failed so heavily:

                                            The issue was that XS wasn't automounting it as a SR and we don't know why not.

                                            Because it was ext instead of LVM, we are pretty sure, I think.

                                            That can't be it, unless it was related to size, because my SR is ext also.

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