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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      @Dominica did a printer add with her Linux recently and couldn't believe how easy it was compared to Windows. She always had so many issues and suddenly things just worked.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

        @Dominica did a printer add with her Linux recently and couldn't believe how easy it was compared to Windows. She always had so many issues and suddenly things just worked.

        Yeah, on Win10... it took forever. And the last time it never even printed. It was iffy before that.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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          @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

          @scottalanmiller said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

          @Dominica did a printer add with her Linux recently and couldn't believe how easy it was compared to Windows. She always had so many issues and suddenly things just worked.

          Yeah, on Win10... it took forever. And the last time it never even printed. It was iffy before that.

          Yup, she was often unable to print till going to Korora. Then everything was rock solid.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce
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            I think I will stick with Gnome over Cinnamon on Korora. Not just because I'm afraid to break my currently working setup, but because it's actually starting to grow on me.

            I can actually feel a productivity increase using my computer this way over the standard Windows-like Cinnamon layout.

            I like how the "Windows key" on the keyboard shows all your open windows, easy access to other screens, and search. Also moving mouse to upper left hand corner does the same thing.

            I don't know, it's more than just that though... if you know what I mean. It seems cleaner too.

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite @Obsolesce
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              @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

              I think I will stick with Gnome over Cinnamon on Korora. Not just because I'm afraid to break my currently working setup, but because it's actually starting to grow on me.

              I can actually feel a productivity increase using my computer this way over the standard Windows-like Cinnamon layout.

              I like how the "Windows key" on the keyboard shows all your open windows, easy access to other screens, and search. Also moving mouse to upper left hand corner does the same thing.

              I don't know, it's more than just that though... if you know what I mean. It seems cleaner too.

              Gnome and Unity is pretty much my comfort Desktops. The layout is clean and doesn't have that windows 7 mouse clicking needs.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce
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                I think the majority of my issues are due to the issue the Bumblebee-Project addresses.

                Fedora has a Bumblebee Wiki regarding this, which I will try out later (tonight hopefully) and post results.

                I still would like to get things in working order, so I can edit my top posts of the whole procedure and end up with a working machine all around.

                I can't get far enough with the Korora Cinnamon install to try this, so I will have to get everything going on Gnome desktop first. Then maybe I will try to figure out a way to switch to Cinnamon once I get the graphics crap straightened out.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce
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                  @JaredBusch said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                  @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                  When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                  @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                  When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                  here is what mine says.
                  0_1495482109794_upload-2d5ae5f3-52a7-48e8-8e0b-a36123f9baaf

                  Mine shows like it does here. It lists Intel instead of the NVidia card in your photo.

                  Things seem to be working fine when using Gnome on Korora 25. So I don't know if there's anything for me to do or not. I went through the whole Bumblebee dance, and the only thing that happened was I ended up not being able to log in. So reinstalled Korora again last night.

                  I'm not sure how to test out the NVidia card to be sure all is working as it should, regardless of which graphics shows up in the "system info" window.

                  I tried the tuxkartracer game (or whatever it's called) last night too, and that ran just fine. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume I don't need to do anything after a fresh install graphics-wise. Perhaps I should leave it alone. I'm starting to get tired of reloading it multiple times every night!

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @Obsolesce
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                    @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                    @JaredBusch said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                    @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                    When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                    @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                    When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                    here is what mine says.
                    0_1495482109794_upload-2d5ae5f3-52a7-48e8-8e0b-a36123f9baaf

                    Mine shows like it does here. It lists Intel instead of the NVidia card in your photo.

                    Things seem to be working fine when using Gnome on Korora 25. So I don't know if there's anything for me to do or not. I went through the whole Bumblebee dance, and the only thing that happened was I ended up not being able to log in. So reinstalled Korora again last night.

                    I'm not sure how to test out the NVidia card to be sure all is working as it should, regardless of which graphics shows up in the "system info" window.

                    I tried the tuxkartracer game (or whatever it's called) last night too, and that ran just fine. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume I don't need to do anything after a fresh install graphics-wise. Perhaps I should leave it alone. I'm starting to get tired of reloading it multiple times every night!

                    If you have one of those NVIDIA Optimus GPUs in your laptop, you'll need the Bumblebee driver working, I do believe.

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite @Obsolesce
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                      @Tim_G By default Korora 25 Gnome is using Wayland and believe Korora 25 Cinnamon is still using xorg. Maybe that's why the Gnome version is working for you.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @dafyre
                        last edited by

                        @dafyre said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                        @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                        @JaredBusch said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                        @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                        When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                        @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                        When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                        here is what mine says.
                        0_1495482109794_upload-2d5ae5f3-52a7-48e8-8e0b-a36123f9baaf

                        Mine shows like it does here. It lists Intel instead of the NVidia card in your photo.

                        Things seem to be working fine when using Gnome on Korora 25. So I don't know if there's anything for me to do or not. I went through the whole Bumblebee dance, and the only thing that happened was I ended up not being able to log in. So reinstalled Korora again last night.

                        I'm not sure how to test out the NVidia card to be sure all is working as it should, regardless of which graphics shows up in the "system info" window.

                        I tried the tuxkartracer game (or whatever it's called) last night too, and that ran just fine. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume I don't need to do anything after a fresh install graphics-wise. Perhaps I should leave it alone. I'm starting to get tired of reloading it multiple times every night!

                        If you have one of those NVIDIA Optimus GPUs in your laptop, you'll need the Bumblebee driver working, I do believe.

                        That's what I thought too. But after it was installed, nothing changed. Even after I rebooted. Everything showed up the same as it did before I installed it. The more I did, it ended with my laptop not booting to the GUI anymore.

                        Is it like this with laptops using high-end AMD graphics cards? Just NVidia?

                        I really don't understand why things just won't work using the Linux drivers provided by NVidia. Why must you run around the world 4 times to get things working using this and that, if you're lucky?

                        (note, Korora 25 Cinnamon works great on my Dell Latitude e6440... not a single issue whatsoever. This seems to be specific to high-end NVidia graphics cards)

                        From the NVidia website:

                        Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
                         
                        Version: 
                        375.66 
                        Release Date: 
                        2017.5.4 
                        Operating System: 
                        Linux 64-bit 
                        Language: 
                        English (US) 
                        File Size: 
                        71.62 MB 
                        

                        I haven't yet just straight up tried that above driver from NVidia. I'll try that tonight. But I'm not hopeful, considering everywhere I look says I need this and that, and to not use the drivers provided by NVidia. Who knows!

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @black3dynamite
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                          @black3dynamite said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                          @Tim_G By default Korora 25 Gnome is using Wayland and believe Korora 25 Cinnamon is still using xorg. Maybe that's why the Gnome version is working for you.

                          I didn't know that. That make a little more sense.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                            last edited by

                            @black3dynamite said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                            @Tim_G By default Korora 25 Gnome is using Wayland and believe Korora 25 Cinnamon is still using xorg. Maybe that's why the Gnome version is working for you.

                            Oh that's interesting.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                              @dafyre said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                              @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                              @JaredBusch said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                              @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                              When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                              @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                              When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                              here is what mine says.
                              0_1495482109794_upload-2d5ae5f3-52a7-48e8-8e0b-a36123f9baaf

                              Mine shows like it does here. It lists Intel instead of the NVidia card in your photo.

                              Things seem to be working fine when using Gnome on Korora 25. So I don't know if there's anything for me to do or not. I went through the whole Bumblebee dance, and the only thing that happened was I ended up not being able to log in. So reinstalled Korora again last night.

                              I'm not sure how to test out the NVidia card to be sure all is working as it should, regardless of which graphics shows up in the "system info" window.

                              I tried the tuxkartracer game (or whatever it's called) last night too, and that ran just fine. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume I don't need to do anything after a fresh install graphics-wise. Perhaps I should leave it alone. I'm starting to get tired of reloading it multiple times every night!

                              If you have one of those NVIDIA Optimus GPUs in your laptop, you'll need the Bumblebee driver working, I do believe.

                              That's what I thought too. But after it was installed, nothing changed. Even after I rebooted. Everything showed up the same as it did before I installed it. The more I did, it ended with my laptop not booting to the GUI anymore.

                              Is it like this with laptops using high-end AMD graphics cards? Just NVidia?

                              I really don't understand why things just won't work using the Linux drivers provided by NVidia. Why must you run around the world 4 times to get things working using this and that, if you're lucky?

                              (note, Korora 25 Cinnamon works great on my Dell Latitude e6440... not a single issue whatsoever. This seems to be specific to high-end NVidia graphics cards)

                              From the NVidia website:

                              Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
                               
                              Version: 
                              375.66 
                              Release Date: 
                              2017.5.4 
                              Operating System: 
                              Linux 64-bit 
                              Language: 
                              English (US) 
                              File Size: 
                              71.62 MB 
                              

                              I haven't yet just straight up tried that above driver from NVidia. I'll try that tonight. But I'm not hopeful, considering everywhere I look says I need this and that, and to not use the drivers provided by NVidia. Who knows!

                              Yeah, that will break it, lol.

                              In order to get things to run with the NVIDIA chip, you can prefix the commands with umm...

                              optirun, I think.... IE: to run Chrome with the NVIDIA drivers, it'd be :

                              optirun /usr/bin/google-chrome

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce
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                                I got Korora 25 Gnome reinstalled and fully updated.

                                I don't think I'm going to mess with any of the graphics stuff. It's working just fine. If there's any games I want to play, and I can't get it to use the nVidia card on Linux, I'll reboot and fire up Win10.

                                It looks like Google Chrome runs the best on here, much better and smoother than Firefox does.

                                Now that I know how to keep Korora stable, and have a stable web browser I can use efficiently, I'll let things simmer a few days and get the original intent of this thread reorganized and written.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce
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                                  I'm toying with the idea of trying one more thing before settling on Korora Gnome for my personal laptop:

                                  SteamOS. It's just a modified Debian Jessie distro, and you can go into desktop mode no problem (from what I've read).

                                  It's starting to look like Debian is my best bet on getting this other stuff working. I'm going to test out SteamOS on an older laptop first, just to see what it looks like in desktop mode and such.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce
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                                    Yeah that was a total fail.

                                    No Linux on my personal laptop.

                                    Simple reason: It doesn't work, and is a total time sink to attempt to get it to do what it should do.

                                    I'll keep it on my work laptop because it does work and is not a time sink.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Personal was the Asus?

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                                        Personal was the Asus?

                                        Yes

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          We should start a community matrix of what distros work on what models.

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                                          • black3dynamiteB
                                            black3dynamite @Obsolesce
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                                            @Tim_G

                                            There has to be a Linux disto that works.
                                            This is the only one I can think that might work. Manjaro

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