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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22
      last edited by wirestyle22

      This is a work in progress but constructive criticism welcome. Will update daily.

      https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Q6ibu9kBazU0lQS204cTZJQUk/view?usp=sharing

      Note: The formatting got a little screwey after the upload. I'll fix that.

      Updated: 7/28/2017

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        You might put some projects you've implemented at each of your jobs, something the business is still using. How the projects were managed (if by you), planned etc.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22
          last edited by

          with the exception of my first job and my last job I've been the sole IT peep, but yeah I am going to try to write some good explanations that are short. I'd like to keep this to a page if i can

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          • gjacobseG
            gjacobse @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

            You might put some projects you've implemented at each of your jobs, something the business is still using. How the projects were managed (if by you), planned etc.

            That is a good point.

            I am about half done with a NextCloud project - so that could be added.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @gjacobse
              last edited by

              @gjacobse said in Feedback on Resume:

              @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

              You might put some projects you've implemented at each of your jobs, something the business is still using. How the projects were managed (if by you), planned etc.

              That is a good point.

              I am about half done with a NextCloud project - so that could be added.

              I've put Nextcloud and Zabbix into production here, among general mistake fixing

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse
                last edited by

                Flip it,.. you want to highlight your skill set BEFORE the job history.

                Dates should line up, and never wrap.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @gjacobse
                  last edited by wirestyle22

                  @gjacobse I've always been under the impression that you should highlight your strongest stuff first. My experience is stronger than my knowledge on paper although I do have a lot of stuff to add.

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                  • gjacobseG
                    gjacobse @wirestyle22
                    last edited by

                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @gjacobse I've always been under the impression that you should highlight your strongest stuff first. My experience is stronger than my knowledge on paper although I do have a lot of stuff to add.

                    If I had to look at resumes for an hour, I want to know what you can do / have done. Not where you work. That comes when I decide to look at you harder... it's the Thirty second rule.... Wow me,.. but you are being timed....

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @gjacobse
                      last edited by wirestyle22

                      @gjacobse The hard part of that is honesty. Most of the people I'll be competing with will be lying. I've seen it everywhere. It's hard to compete with people that might as well not exist (they aren't actually who they are presenting). I will typically get the job once I stop becoming a name on a piece of paper, but it's hard to get past that point.

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                      • gjacobseG
                        gjacobse @wirestyle22
                        last edited by gjacobse

                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @gjacobse The hard part of that is honesty. Most of the people I'll be competing with will be lying. I've seen it everywhere. It's hard to compete with people that might as well not exist (they aren't actually who they are presenting). I will typically get the job once I stop becoming a name on a piece of paper, but it's hard to get past that point.

                        I agree that there is a line when building a resume.

                        While working with persons with challenging history / employment, we had to be very careful as to what was on a resume. You have to be creative without it being a flat-out lie. I have a few examples, but would prefer to not list them.... But here's one.

                        Car Thief = Parts Acquisition Engineer
                        Janitor = Environment protection technician
                        (eta)
                        Vandalism = Abstract Visual Designer

                        Have to be creative in a positive manner....

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          LOL - creative and fake.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                            last edited by wirestyle22

                            In today's world it feels like you can't be honest and be competitive almost. Of course, I am stubborn about it. that's probably why I make less than I could though. I just don't like the idea of someone dictating the kind of person I am.

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                            • gjacobseG
                              gjacobse
                              last edited by

                              Ah - something else... You have two listed as present employment. Both should be listed together, regardless of begin date,

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @gjacobse
                                last edited by wirestyle22

                                @gjacobse It's misrepresenting the truth. If you're on a date and you ask the girl what she does and she says "I'm a petroleum technician" when in reality she pumps gas are you going to be like "that's fair"? I seriously doubt it.

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                                • gjacobseG
                                  gjacobse @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by

                                  @wirestyle22

                                  sadly, there are number of cases where titles are really contentious and subjective...

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @gjacobse
                                    last edited by wirestyle22

                                    @gjacobse I'm just not willing to play that game. When someone asks me what I do I just say computer shit. They can make assumptions about what level I am at because they aren't interviewing me and it doesn't matter. The interview process sucks because you have to represent yourself in a fake way.

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ @wirestyle22
                                      last edited by

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                      @gjacobse I'm just not willing to play that game. When someone asks me what I do I just say computer shit. They can make assumptions about what level I am at because they aren't interviewing me and it doesn't matter. The interview process sucks because you have to represent yourself in a fake way.

                                      It's marketing, and marketing yourself will be the sole biggest effect of your career. It will determine everything from how much money you will make, how much training you will get (free or out of pocket), what position you can get, etc.

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22 @IRJ
                                        last edited by wirestyle22

                                        @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                        @gjacobse I'm just not willing to play that game. When someone asks me what I do I just say computer shit. They can make assumptions about what level I am at because they aren't interviewing me and it doesn't matter. The interview process sucks because you have to represent yourself in a fake way.

                                        It's marketing, and marketing yourself will be the sole biggest effect of your career. It will determine everything from how much money you will make, how much training you will get (free or out of pocket), what position you can get, etc.

                                        Yeah but there are different types of salesman. There are slimey douchebag salesman and honest salesman who are just selling a good product. I want to be honest and clear with my employer and let them know exactly what they are getting, not sell them a golden turd.

                                        Always refer back to this:
                                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                        I just don't like the idea of someone dictating the kind of person I am.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @wirestyle22
                                          last edited by

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          @gjacobse I'm just not willing to play that game. When someone asks me what I do I just say computer shit. They can make assumptions about what level I am at because they aren't interviewing me and it doesn't matter. The interview process sucks because you have to represent yourself in a fake way.

                                          It's marketing, and marketing yourself will be the sole biggest effect of your career. It will determine everything from how much money you will make, how much training you will get (free or out of pocket), what position you can get, etc.

                                          Yeah but there are different types of salesman. There are slimey douchebag salesman and honest salesman who are just selling a good product. I want to be honest and clear with my employer and let them know exactly what they are getting, not sell them a golden turd.

                                          Always refer back to this:
                                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          I just don't like the idea of someone dictating the kind of person I am.

                                          Actually, according to Scott, as long as they aren't lying, the sales persons are the same, or the second one is not doing their job correctly.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                            @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                            @gjacobse I'm just not willing to play that game. When someone asks me what I do I just say computer shit. They can make assumptions about what level I am at because they aren't interviewing me and it doesn't matter. The interview process sucks because you have to represent yourself in a fake way.

                                            It's marketing, and marketing yourself will be the sole biggest effect of your career. It will determine everything from how much money you will make, how much training you will get (free or out of pocket), what position you can get, etc.

                                            Yeah but there are different types of salesman. There are slimey douchebag salesman and honest salesman who are just selling a good product. I want to be honest and clear with my employer and let them know exactly what they are getting, not sell them a golden turd.

                                            Always refer back to this:
                                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                            I just don't like the idea of someone dictating the kind of person I am.

                                            Actually, according to Scott, as long as they aren't lying, the sales persons are the same, or the second one is not doing their job correctly.

                                            Then we get into what is considered a lie. Let's not use the word lie and instead say misrepresent

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