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    • wrx7mW
      wrx7m
      last edited by

      I am looking into physical access control systems for the SMB I work for. I am looking to secure external and some internal doors. I have worked with HID in the past but would like to know what recommendations ML members might have. Is anyone using/working with access control systems and would recommend looking at or steering clear of certain ones?

      TIA.

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee
        last edited by FATeknollogee

        I use Net2 from https://www.paxton-access.com/
        The "door controllers" are IP based.
        I run the "backend" server as a Win 7 vm

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        • wrx7mW
          wrx7m @FATeknollogee
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          @fateknollogee Thanks! I will check them out too.

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          • gjacobseG
            gjacobse
            last edited by

            I would think, that if IP based, you will need to keep it separate from your network. on power backukp

            worse thing to have is a control system that fails when you do a test or when the power goes out... and you can't access the area...

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            • wrx7mW
              wrx7m @gjacobse
              last edited by wrx7m

              @gjacobse said in Phyiscal Access Control Systems - Recommendations?:

              I would think, that if IP based, you will need to keep it separate from your network. on power backukp

              worse thing to have is a control system that fails when you do a test or when the power goes out... and you can't access the area...

              That is a good point. In my past dealings, the doors still had a physical lock and key and would still allow for exiting, just not entry during complete power loss (unless using the physical key).

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse
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                And thinking more about it,.. your reader may have power during the outage if POE,.. but what of the door release. many still need AC to power, so you can card swipe the reader all day, but if no power, the latch isn't going to release....

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @gjacobse
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                  @gjacobse Don't over think this stuff.

                  The reader & door strike are powered by the door controller module which in turn is powered by a power supply.
                  Put your power supply on a UPS, problem solved!

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                  • wrx7mW
                    wrx7m @FATeknollogee
                    last edited by

                    @fateknollogee said in Phyiscal Access Control Systems - Recommendations?:

                    @gjacobse Don't over think this stuff.

                    The reader & door strike are powered by the door controller module which in turn is powered by a power supply.
                    Put your power supply on a UPS, problem solved!

                    Sure, but it could be an issue after natural or other disaster where power is out for an extended period of time and exceeds the UPS capacity.

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                    • momurdaM
                      momurda
                      last edited by

                      We use Pacom-GMS software with keycards, autolocks. The software runs on a win7 vm.

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee @wrx7m
                        last edited by

                        @wrx7m said in Phyiscal Access Control Systems - Recommendations?:

                        Sure, but it could be an issue after natural or other disaster where power is out for an extended period of time and exceeds the UPS capacity.

                        Why is this a problem? Since this same condition would affect any other Access Control system in the same manner.

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                        • wrx7mW
                          wrx7m @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          @fateknollogee said in Phyiscal Access Control Systems - Recommendations?:

                          @wrx7m said in Phyiscal Access Control Systems - Recommendations?:

                          Sure, but it could be an issue after natural or other disaster where power is out for an extended period of time and exceeds the UPS capacity.

                          Why is this a problem? Since this same condition would affect any other Access Control system in the same manner.

                          It isn't a problem. It is a consideration vs. just having standard old school locks with physical keys.

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                          • jt1001001J
                            jt1001001
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                            We use ADT and their Brivo system for all our offices. Since it's alarm and access it may be overpriced for the SMB. The door controls all have battery backup in them and I have a ups on it too

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                            • MattSpellerM
                              MattSpeller
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                              Trained attack dogs off-leash in the server room works well. Cheap too.

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller
                                last edited by

                                Card systems are a royal PITA

                                Cheap and effective are pin code locks

                                What are you trying to secure? What's the goal?

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                                • gjacobseG
                                  gjacobse @MattSpeller
                                  last edited by

                                  @mattspeller said in Phyiscal Access Control Systems - Recommendations?:

                                  Card systems are a royal PITA

                                  Cheap and effective are pin code locks

                                  What are you trying to secure? What's the goal?

                                  My response to you would be

                                  Nun-ya

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                                  • wrx7mW
                                    wrx7m
                                    last edited by wrx7m

                                    @MattSpeller - We currently have an intercom system (SIP) on the front door that is integrated with our phone system. We have a hunt group of users that get a simultaneous ring when anybody needs entry. This would mostly be employees entering in the morning or returning from 3 scheduled breaks. It also includes random solicitors or actual appointments so I don't see the intercom disappearing, just allowing access for employees to enter without disturbing the people in said hunt group.

                                    Also, access to certain storage areas and the server room could be logged. Not a guarantee that it was the actual user, but better than the anyone could have a physical key or PIN code scenario.

                                    We also have cameras that would aide in verifying users are accessing with their own cards.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
                                      last edited by JaredBusch

                                      I spent nearly 8 years doing this professionally

                                      Someone remind me about this thread tomorrow afternoon

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                                      • NerdyDadN
                                        NerdyDad
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                                        Stay clear from Marel. It sucks.

                                        I was trying to do the same thing last year until the top brass pulled it off of me and gave it to Maintenance. Heh, whatever.

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                                        • wrx7mW
                                          wrx7m @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @jaredbusch said in Phyiscal Access Control Systems - Recommendations?:

                                          I spent nearly 8 years doing this professionally

                                          Someone remind me about this thread tomorrow afternoon

                                          @JaredBusch - Friendly reminder to comment 🙂

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                                          • popesterP
                                            popester @JaredBusch
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                                            @jaredbusch Its Roughly tommorow afternoon....

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