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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @kamidon
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      @kamidon said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

      My workaround was just to turn sleep mode off. I just did this via the GUI in settings.

      Yeah disabling sleep mode would solve the issue.

      @WrCombs said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

      So would the answer be 0 if you never want the device to Sleep?

      That's a good question - nothing I ran into showed that as an option. Everything pointed to just making it longer.

      But this is a non issue if you disable Sleep mode completely.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by

        Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

        Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

          Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

          Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

          Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

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          • wrx7mW
            wrx7m @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

            @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

            Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

            Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

            Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

            Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco @wrx7m
              last edited by

              @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

              @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

              @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

              Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

              Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

              Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

              Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

              Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

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              • WrCombsW
                WrCombs @RojoLoco
                last edited by

                @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                powercfg-hibernate off
                

                is what you're thinking ?

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                • wrx7mW
                  wrx7m @RojoLoco
                  last edited by wrx7m

                  @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                  @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                  @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                  @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                  Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                  Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                  Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                  Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                  Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                  I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @wrx7m
                    last edited by

                    @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                    @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                    @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                    @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                    @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                    Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                    Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                    Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                    Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                    Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                    I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                    You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

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                    • wrx7mW
                      wrx7m @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                      @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                      @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                      @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                      @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                      Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                      Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                      Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                      Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                      Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                      I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                      You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                      Ahhh. I see.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                        Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                        Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                        Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                        Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                        Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                        I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                        You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                        Nope - not according to MS
                        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                          Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                          Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                          Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                          Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                          Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                          I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                          You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                          Nope - not according to MS
                          https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                          You read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.

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                            JasGot @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                            Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                            Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                            Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                            Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                            Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                            I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                            You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                            Nope - not according to MS
                            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                            "... a fast startup simply loads the hibernation file (Hiberfil.sys) into memory to restore the previously saved image of the Windows kernel and loaded drivers."

                            This is a hibernation explanation is its simplest form.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                              Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                              Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                              Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                              Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                              Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                              I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                              You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                              Nope - not according to MS
                              https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                              You read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.

                              Well that seems right on the verge of pointless. The OS itself doesn't take long to come up, and if my state is all lost, I've gone through 95% of the effort of powering down with only 10% of the benefit.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                Nope - not according to MS
                                https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                                You read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.

                                Well that seems right on the verge of pointless. The OS itself doesn't take long to come up, and if my state is all lost, I've gone through 95% of the effort of powering down with only 10% of the benefit.

                                Exactly - and as such is why it's not hibernation.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  @Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                  Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.

                                  Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.

                                  Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature

                                  Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.

                                  Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off

                                  I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?

                                  You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.

                                  Nope - not according to MS
                                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation

                                  You read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.

                                  Well that seems right on the verge of pointless. The OS itself doesn't take long to come up, and if my state is all lost, I've gone through 95% of the effort of powering down with only 10% of the benefit.

                                  Exactly - and as such is why it's not hibernation.

                                  Seriously - who needs this? I surely don't. If I'm rebooting - it's because I need a kernel restart/reload, not as a way to kill all my applications - a logoff/logon does that.

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                                  • wrx7mW
                                    wrx7m
                                    last edited by wrx7m

                                    For the record, at home, I use the actual hibernation on 3 desktops ALL THE TIME. I never actually use shutdown. I can wake them up using my phone from anywhere. When I am done, I hibernate. That isn't to say that I don't reboot them from time to time.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                                      last edited by

                                      @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                      For the record, at home, I use the actual hibernation on 3 desktops ALL THE TIME. I never actually use shutdown. I can wake them up using my phone from anywhere. When I am done, I hibernate. That isn't to say that I don't reboot them from time to time.

                                      While I generally hate it, I can make somewhat obvious cases for why actual hibernate would exist. I don't want it in any business because Windows seems unstable with it. It creates all kinds of support issues. But there is a reason for it to exist. But this weird half assed hibernation where the apps are shut down? That's useless.

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                                      • wrx7mW
                                        wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                        For the record, at home, I use the actual hibernation on 3 desktops ALL THE TIME. I never actually use shutdown. I can wake them up using my phone from anywhere. When I am done, I hibernate. That isn't to say that I don't reboot them from time to time.

                                        While I generally hate it, I can make somewhat obvious cases for why actual hibernate would exist. I don't want it in any business because Windows seems unstable with it. It creates all kinds of support issues. But there is a reason for it to exist. But this weird half assed hibernation where the apps are shut down? That's useless.

                                        Exactly. I disable hibernation at work. Sleep also creates all sorts of issues that a reboot will fix. All desktops have any type of sleep/hibernate disabled because there is no need and it potentially introduces all sorts of issues.

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                                        • WrCombsW
                                          WrCombs @wrx7m
                                          last edited by

                                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                          For the record, at home, I use the actual hibernation on 3 desktops ALL THE TIME. I never actually use shutdown. I can wake them up using my phone from anywhere. When I am done, I hibernate. That isn't to say that I don't reboot them from time to time.

                                          While I generally hate it, I can make somewhat obvious cases for why actual hibernate would exist. I don't want it in any business because Windows seems unstable with it. It creates all kinds of support issues. But there is a reason for it to exist. But this weird half assed hibernation where the apps are shut down? That's useless.

                                          Exactly. I disable hibernation at work. Sleep also creates all sorts of issues that a reboot will fix. All desktops have any type of sleep/hibernate disabled because there is no need and it potentially introduces all sorts of issues.

                                          sleep and hibernation cause issues with My current Job.

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                                          • wrx7mW
                                            wrx7m @WrCombs
                                            last edited by

                                            @WrCombs said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            @wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:

                                            For the record, at home, I use the actual hibernation on 3 desktops ALL THE TIME. I never actually use shutdown. I can wake them up using my phone from anywhere. When I am done, I hibernate. That isn't to say that I don't reboot them from time to time.

                                            While I generally hate it, I can make somewhat obvious cases for why actual hibernate would exist. I don't want it in any business because Windows seems unstable with it. It creates all kinds of support issues. But there is a reason for it to exist. But this weird half assed hibernation where the apps are shut down? That's useless.

                                            Exactly. I disable hibernation at work. Sleep also creates all sorts of issues that a reboot will fix. All desktops have any type of sleep/hibernate disabled because there is no need and it potentially introduces all sorts of issues.

                                            sleep and hibernation cause issues with My current Job.

                                            Lack of sleep causes issues with my current job. 😉

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