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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @dyasny
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      @dyasny said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

      Why would you even want IDE? Are you running a weird guest OS that doesn't support virtio?

      I wouldn't want IDE.
      The download (an ova file) came that way, the vendor exported it from ESXi

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @dyasny
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        @dyasny said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

        Why would you even want IDE? Are you running a weird guest OS that doesn't support virtio?

        It's for testing only. I pushed on that, too.

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          dyasny @FATeknollogee
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          @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

          @dyasny said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

          Why would you even want IDE? Are you running a weird guest OS that doesn't support virtio?

          I wouldn't want IDE.
          The download (an ova file) came that way, the vendor exported it from ESXi

          I see, well, I just started a VM with a SATA disk:

           -drive file=/var/lib/libvirt/images/rhel8-unknown.qcow2,format=qcow2,if=none,id=drive-sata0-0-0 -device ide-hd,bus=ide.0,drive=drive-sata0-0-0,id=sata0-0-0,bootindex=2
          

          Looks like IDE to me, they probably renamed it to SATA for the millenials not to get scared by the older term (and for QEMU, any IDE was always closer to SATA because the access to the disks was always serial, one virtual controller device per disk)

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dyasny
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            @dyasny said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

            @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

            @dyasny said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

            Why would you even want IDE? Are you running a weird guest OS that doesn't support virtio?

            I wouldn't want IDE.
            The download (an ova file) came that way, the vendor exported it from ESXi

            I see, well, I just started a VM with a SATA disk:

             -drive file=/var/lib/libvirt/images/rhel8-unknown.qcow2,format=qcow2,if=none,id=drive-sata0-0-0 -device ide-hd,bus=ide.0,drive=drive-sata0-0-0,id=sata0-0-0,bootindex=2
            

            Looks like IDE to me, they probably renamed it to SATA for the millenials not to get scared by the older term (and for QEMU, any IDE was always closer to SATA because the access to the disks was always serial, one virtual controller device per disk)

            Right, ATA basically means IDE. IDE was formalized into ATA and renamed. SATA means ATA over Serial, since the physical piece is meaningless in a VM, definitely some funky marketing to put the physical piece into the name.

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              dyasny @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

              Right, ATA basically means IDE. IDE was formalized into ATA and renamed. SATA means ATA over Serial, since the physical piece is meaningless in a VM, definitely some funky marketing to put the physical piece into the name.

              Either someone too young became the maintainer or the PMs decided to rebrand. In any case, there was no reason to keep both IDE/PATA and SATA available as options

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                @dyasny said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                Right, ATA basically means IDE. IDE was formalized into ATA and renamed. SATA means ATA over Serial, since the physical piece is meaningless in a VM, definitely some funky marketing to put the physical piece into the name.

                Either someone too young became the maintainer or the PMs decided to rebrand. In any case, there was no reason to keep both IDE/PATA and SATA available as options

                The logical choice would be just ATA, since IDE is weird (long ago deprecated) and either SATA/PATA make no sense as they specify parts that don't apply.

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                  dyasny @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                  The logical choice would be just ATA, since IDE is weird (long ago deprecated) and either SATA/PATA make no sense as they specify parts that don't apply.

                  Yeah, but kids^W admins these days only ever heard of SATA, so give 'em SATA to keep them happy

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                    @dyasny said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                    The logical choice would be just ATA, since IDE is weird (long ago deprecated) and either SATA/PATA make no sense as they specify parts that don't apply.

                    Yeah, but kids^W admins these days only ever heard of SATA, so give 'em SATA to keep them happy

                    They need to just get off of my lawn.

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                      dyasny @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                      They need to just get off of my lawn.

                      LOL, funny how I'd never have understood the joke before moving to NA and buying a house 🙂

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                        @dyasny said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                        They need to just get off of my lawn.

                        LOL, funny how I'd never have understood the joke before moving to NA and buying a house 🙂

                        HAHAHA

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