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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @flaxking
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      @flaxking said in Writing a Job Posting:

      I'd axe out the preferred qualifications and go back to it just being describing the technology stacks used. And make sure basic qualifications are really the basic ones.

      I agree here. List what you'll general expect done, let them decide how to show that they can do that.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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        @stacksofplates said in Writing a Job Posting:

        I'll do it along with my current job for $37 an hour. You don't need to pay health insurance then.

        Did you miss the in St Louis requirement?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

          @stacksofplates said in Writing a Job Posting:

          I'll do it along with my current job for $37 an hour. You don't need to pay health insurance then.

          Did you miss the in St Louis requirement?

          Pitt to St Louis, easy commute once every two weeks.

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          • EddieJenningsE
            EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Writing a Job Posting:

            @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

            @stacksofplates said in Writing a Job Posting:

            I'll do it along with my current job for $37 an hour. You don't need to pay health insurance then.

            Did you miss the in St Louis requirement?

            Pitt to St Louis, easy commute once every two weeks.

            I might need to crunch numbers about Atlanta to St. Louis 😉

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @EddieJennings
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              @EddieJennings said in Writing a Job Posting:

              @scottalanmiller said in Writing a Job Posting:

              @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

              @stacksofplates said in Writing a Job Posting:

              I'll do it along with my current job for $37 an hour. You don't need to pay health insurance then.

              Did you miss the in St Louis requirement?

              Pitt to St Louis, easy commute once every two weeks.

              I might need to crunch numbers about Atlanta to St. Louis 😉

              It'd be at least $3500 a month in travel expenses for me lol.

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                Carnival Boy @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

                *We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
                There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.

                Wow, seems like a tough gig.

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                • WrCombsW
                  WrCombs @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch Same job you were talking to me about?

                  Of all the job postings I've seen the place where they lose interest is preferred qualifications, and I'd suggest keeping the pay off the job posting.. You'll end up getting joe blow interested because of the money factor and not someone who is actually going to help you with what you're looking for, knowing you would never hire them, but they'd waste your time in an interview.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @Carnival Boy
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                    @Carnival-Boy said in Writing a Job Posting:

                    @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

                    *We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
                    There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.

                    Wow, seems like a tough gig.

                    Yeah this is pretty uncertain - is there any type of assured number of hours? I mean - i seriously doubt it, but one should ask.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @WrCombs
                      last edited by

                      @WrCombs said in Writing a Job Posting:

                      @JaredBusch Same job you were talking to me about?

                      Of all the job postings I've seen the place where they lose interest is preferred qualifications, and I'd suggest keeping the pay off the job posting.. You'll end up getting joe blow interested because of the money factor and not someone who is actually going to help you with what you're looking for, knowing you would never hire them, but they'd waste your time in an interview.

                      Well - unless the resume is a total lie just to get the interview, it shouldn't be that bad.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Writing a Job Posting:

                        @Carnival-Boy said in Writing a Job Posting:

                        @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

                        *We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
                        There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.

                        Wow, seems like a tough gig.

                        Yeah this is pretty uncertain - is there any type of assured number of hours? I mean - i seriously doubt it, but one should ask.

                        The work is there. I'm still working out that information, but that doesn't matter to build the rest of the job listing.

                        Currently I'm 100% certain there is 30 hours/week.

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                        • pmonchoP
                          pmoncho @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Writing a Job Posting:

                          @Carnival-Boy said in Writing a Job Posting:

                          @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

                          *We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
                          There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.

                          Wow, seems like a tough gig.

                          Yeah this is pretty uncertain - is there any type of assured number of hours? I mean - i seriously doubt it, but one should ask.

                          I was thinking about this also. Just figured it would be a question during the interview process vs being listed on the job posting.

                          Didn't want to get a FFS or WTF! 🙂

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by Dashrender

                            Many jobs start offering more and more time off as an employee hangs around i.e. 5 yrs = extra year of vacation... would you expect someone who hung around this long to negotiate a salary raise commensurate with this? Not something for the posting, but a followup question.

                            What if a person doesn't need health insurance because their family has it through their spouse?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Writing a Job Posting:

                              Many jobs start offering more and more time off as an employee hangs around i.e. 5 yrs = extra year of vacation... would you expect someone who hung around this long to negotiate a salary raise commensurate with this? Not something for the posting, but a followup question.

                              Anyone with seniority starts to negotiate raises of one sort or another. I think that that is baked into any thought process.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @pmoncho
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                                @pmoncho said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                @Dashrender said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                @Carnival-Boy said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                *We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
                                There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.

                                Wow, seems like a tough gig.

                                Yeah this is pretty uncertain - is there any type of assured number of hours? I mean - i seriously doubt it, but one should ask.

                                I was thinking about this also. Just figured it would be a question during the interview process vs being listed on the job posting.

                                Didn't want to get a FFS or WTF! 🙂

                                LOL you'll just get it in the interview instead 😛

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                  What if a person doesn't need health insurance because their family has it through the other spouse?

                                  Surprisingly few companies give any compensation for that. Should they? Likely. But very few do (partially because many actually make money on you having healthcare.)

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                    @Dashrender said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                    What if a person doesn't need health insurance because their family has it through the other spouse?

                                    Surprisingly few companies give any compensation for that. Should they? Likely. But very few do (partially because many actually make money on you having healthcare.)

                                    I know mine does - my boss gets her's through her husband's Firefighter for life insurance policy (don't get me started)... and she gets extra compensation because the company doesn't have to pay for her.. not sure it's 1:1, but hey, anything would be better than nothing.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Carnival Boy
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                                      @Carnival-Boy said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                      *We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
                                      There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.

                                      Wow, seems like a tough gig.

                                      From your perspective maybe. But I take off when I want. I work when I want. For 2019 I put in 40/week most weeks.

                                      You might have missed where the rate accounts for the time.
                                      I worked 1983.5 hours in 2019. That is 96.5 less hours than 40 hours a week. Basically, I took 12 days completely off.

                                      In reality, I took off more than that, and worked more than 8 hours a day often.

                                      Fuck your old school 8-5 bullshit concepts of a job.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                        @Carnival-Boy said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                        *We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
                                        There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.

                                        Wow, seems like a tough gig.

                                        From your perspective maybe. But I take off when I want. I work when I want. For 2019 I put in 40/week most weeks.

                                        You might have missed where the rate accounts for the time.
                                        I worked 1983.5 hours in 2019. That is 96.5 less hours than 40 hours a week. Basically, I took 12 days completely off.

                                        In reality, I took off more than that, and worked more than 8 hours a day often.

                                        Fuck your old school 8-5 bullshit concepts of a job.

                                        If you have the self-discipline, this can be awesome - you could work 4 10's and have three day weekends, or better. The issue is when you want a continuous 7+ days off in a row - Does the company have other people to take over while you're gone?

                                        What are the chances of a real 2 week (or even three week vacation)? Perhaps these are a reality to you - They have been for me.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                          @Carnival-Boy said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:

                                          *We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
                                          There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.

                                          Wow, seems like a tough gig.

                                          From your perspective maybe. But I take off when I want. I work when I want. For 2019 I put in 40/week most weeks.

                                          You might have missed where the rate accounts for the time.
                                          I worked 1983.5 hours in 2019. That is 96.5 less hours than 40 hours a week. Basically, I took 12 days completely off.

                                          In reality, I took off more than that, and worked more than 8 hours a day often.

                                          Fuck your old school 8-5 bullshit concepts of a job.

                                          If you have the self-discipline, this can be awesome - you could work 4 10's and have three day weekends, or better. The issue is when you want a continuous 7+ days off in a row - Does the company have other people to take over while you're gone?

                                          What are the chances of a real 2 week (or even three week vacation)? Perhaps these are a reality to you - They have been for me.

                                          Well at the moment, the possibility it near zero, but only because I need this person.

                                          Financially, that onus is on me. When I was hired, I negotiated an hourly rate to account for ~80 hours of "vacation". If I don't have the financial ability to handle it, that is my own problem. I had the option to negotiate a typical "vacation" allotment and take a lower hourly rate. Math people. It is not that hard of a thing.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
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                                            The above said, I spend 2-3 weeks in Japan in the summer when I want to.

                                            That doesn't mean I can't get work done.

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