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    • Reid CooperR
      Reid Cooper
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      There is a lot of people talking about Unitrends Free with you guys sitting in the break out session! When they say that the free offer is for up to 1TB, does that mean 1TB of "backup" storage or 1TB of total storage.

      If I have a full terabyte to backup, would I only be able to store one copy or would I get to backup many of copies that varied over time? How do I plan for overhead?

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      • ?
        A Former User
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        Normally it's based on Backup storage. meaning your UEB can only have 1TB of storage attached to it. You can do archiving I believe even on the free version.

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        • Minion QueenM
          Minion Queen Banned
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          Just got an answer right from @KatieUnitrends 1tb of data as many backups as you want. That is total storage.

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          • Reid CooperR
            Reid Cooper @Minion Queen
            last edited by

            @Minion-Queen said:

            Just got an answer right from @KatieUnitrends 1tb of data as many backups as you want. That is total storage.

            That's not more clear. Is it one TB of my data and I can end up with 2TB of storage used attached to the UEB?

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse @Minion Queen
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              @Minion-Queen said:

              Just got an answer right from @KatieUnitrends 1tb of data as many backups as you want. That is total storage.

              1TB of data - That is the total Storage

              With as many backups as you want..

              This is how I read it,.. but could be incorrect.

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              • Reid CooperR
                Reid Cooper @gjacobse
                last edited by

                @g.jacobse said:

                @Minion-Queen said:

                Just got an answer right from @KatieUnitrends 1tb of data as many backups as you want. That is total storage.

                1TB of data - That is the total Storage

                With as many backups as you want..

                This is how I read it,.. but could be incorrect.

                But what does "total storage" mean to you? Total storage on which side of the UEB? On the front end (1TB of YOUR data) or on the back end (1TB of backup storage.) Total storage doesn't mean anything unless you are saying you can only have 500GB on one side and create 500GB of backups from it.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @Reid Cooper
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                  @Reid-Cooper said:

                  @g.jacobse said:

                  @Minion-Queen said:

                  Just got an answer right from @KatieUnitrends 1tb of data as many backups as you want. That is total storage.

                  1TB of data - That is the total Storage

                  With as many backups as you want..

                  This is how I read it,.. but could be incorrect.

                  But what does "total storage" mean to you? Total storage on which side of the UEB? On the front end (1TB of YOUR data) or on the back end (1TB of backup storage.) Total storage doesn't mean anything unless you are saying you can only have 500GB on one side and create 500GB of backups from it.

                  From how I read it, this is 1TB of backed-up storage. Meaning you can backup that 500GB twice.

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                  • Minion QueenM
                    Minion Queen Banned
                    last edited by Minion Queen

                    I think its the total source data

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                    • ?
                      A Former User @Reid Cooper
                      last edited by

                      @Reid-Cooper said:

                      @g.jacobse said:

                      @Minion-Queen said:

                      Just got an answer right from @KatieUnitrends 1tb of data as many backups as you want. That is total storage.

                      1TB of data - That is the total Storage

                      With as many backups as you want..

                      This is how I read it,.. but could be incorrect.

                      But what does "total storage" mean to you? Total storage on which side of the UEB? On the front end (1TB of YOUR data) or on the back end (1TB of backup storage.) Total storage doesn't mean anything unless you are saying you can only have 500GB on one side and create 500GB of backups from it.

                      Total storage is the storage connected to the UEB.

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                      • Reid CooperR
                        Reid Cooper @Minion Queen
                        last edited by

                        @Minion-Queen said:

                        I think its the total source data

                        That would be awesome. Because then it is predictable and that means a lot more. If I have much data changing or I want to keep long term backups, I need a lot more backup storage than source storage.

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                        • Reid CooperR
                          Reid Cooper @A Former User
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                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                          Total storage is the storage connected to the UEB.

                          That's unfortunate. Sure you can compress and dedube, but with any amount of delta rate your backups will expand considerably.

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                          • ?
                            A Former User @Reid Cooper
                            last edited by

                            @Reid-Cooper said:

                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                            Total storage is the storage connected to the UEB.

                            That's unfortunate. Sure you can compress and dedube, but with any amount of delta rate your backups will expand considerably.

                            @art_of_shred would know for sure but, I am pretty sure that's how they do it.

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                            • Minion QueenM
                              Minion Queen Banned
                              last edited by

                              Ok solid it IS the source Data!

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                              • art_of_shredA
                                art_of_shred Banned
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                                It can get a little confusing, the way storage limits are referred to. If you have a "licensed" storage amount, that is calling out how much data you can protect. Your actual storage is the landing zone for backups. With a UEB, the attached storage is a landing zone, not pointing to how much data can be protected. With 1 TB, you can get as many fulls, diffs, incs, etc. that will fit in that space. You can also count on some data reduction in your favor (deduplication/compression). On the "licensed" storage amount, I believe the calculation is made for the protected data size based on a 30-day retention with Incremental Forever as the primary strategy.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Minion Queen
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                                  @Minion-Queen said:

                                  Ok solid it IS the source Data!

                                  For me personally - I'm teetering on the edge with this amount. Time to see what I can get rid of...

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                                  • Reid CooperR
                                    Reid Cooper
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                                    This isn't getting any more clear.

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @Reid Cooper
                                      last edited by A Former User

                                      @Reid-Cooper said:

                                      This isn't getting any more clear.

                                      Bahaha. I always thought it was like @art_of_shred said but it could have changed.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Reid Cooper
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                                        @Reid-Cooper I think I need a diagram. I thought I had understood it originally but not anymore.

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                                        • Minion QueenM
                                          Minion Queen Banned
                                          last edited by

                                          As per Ian here at the Unitrends booth it is Source data.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @Minion Queen
                                            last edited by Dashrender

                                            @Minion-Queen said:

                                            As per Ian here at the Unitrends booth it is Source data.

                                            So you have the following:

                                            server 1 - 200 GB
                                            Server 2 - 400 GB
                                            Server 3 - 500 GB

                                            with the free version you can backup:
                                            1 and 2 because they = 600 GB
                                            or 1 and 3 because they = 700 GB
                                            or 2 and 3 because they = 900 GB,
                                            but not 1, 2 and 3 because they = 1.1 TB.

                                            From the sounds of it, your backup storage could be 10 TB if you wanted, allowing you to have many incrementals of the above backups.

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