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    • StrongBadS
      StrongBad
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      I have not used Slack. What is the benefit of Slack over other messaging options?

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      • AmbarishrhA
        Ambarishrh
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        For most, i guess its about moving away from traditional email systems. Could be Yammer/Slack/Mattermost or any of those platforms, for collaboration between team members

        With Yammer for us, all communications internally happens on that now. Any new projects starts, we create a group, then all internal communications, files etc are on that page. Think of facebook for internal communications.

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          williamsdanielle
          last edited by scottalanmiller

          Similar to mattermost you could try Clariti

          Edited. No links to products for new members.

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            travisdh1 @Ambarishrh
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            @ambarishrh said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

            Not exact features of slack/mattermost, but this looks good too! https://rocket.chat/

            With video conf, file sharing etc

            I have rocket.chat running on my NextCloud home lab, it's so easy to install with NextCloud. Just a single click and you're up and running. The only challenge I've run into with it is getting video/audio running online without giving the NextCloud instance it's own public IP address (works fine on the local network).

            Edit: I'm probably just bad at getting ports forwarded properly.

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              1337
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              @travisdh1 said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

              @ambarishrh said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

              Not exact features of slack/mattermost, but this looks good too! https://rocket.chat/

              With video conf, file sharing etc

              I have rocket.chat running on my NextCloud home lab, it's so easy to install with NextCloud. Just a single click and you're up and running. The only challenge I've run into with it is getting video/audio running online without giving the NextCloud instance it's own public IP address (works fine on the local network).

              Edit: I'm probably just bad at getting ports forwarded properly.

              I feel like collaboration, messaging and video has gone the way of emails. It seldom makes sense to host it yourself - unless you have some niche use case. Playing with tech at home could be one of those niche cases 🙂

              I know Slack is expensive but there are other options out there. And some of them are free or low cost.

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              • CloudKnightC
                CloudKnight
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                Seems smart, is it like Discord as well?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @1337
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                  @pete-s said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                  @travisdh1 said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                  @ambarishrh said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                  Not exact features of slack/mattermost, but this looks good too! https://rocket.chat/

                  With video conf, file sharing etc

                  I have rocket.chat running on my NextCloud home lab, it's so easy to install with NextCloud. Just a single click and you're up and running. The only challenge I've run into with it is getting video/audio running online without giving the NextCloud instance it's own public IP address (works fine on the local network).

                  Edit: I'm probably just bad at getting ports forwarded properly.

                  I feel like collaboration, messaging and video has gone the way of emails. It seldom makes sense to host it yourself - unless you have some niche use case. Playing with tech at home could be one of those niche cases 🙂

                  I know Slack is expensive but there are other options out there. And some of them are free or low cost.

                  I mostly agree here. But we seem to find a lot of niche, mostly when dealing with outside companies. Not a single customer we have has a messaging platform that is universal in any way, so we always have to provide one, and doing so for every user, of every customer, isn't cheap unless you host yourself.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
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                    @stuartjordan said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                    Seems smart, is it like Discord as well?

                    Sure, but Discord is unmanaged. Anything hosted that I know of doesn't work because you use Mattermost where you need management.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @williamsdanielle
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                      @williamsdanielle said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                      Similar to mattermost you could try Clariti

                      Edited. No links to products for new members.

                      $5000/mo compared to free. Doesn't seem like much of a deal.

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                        1337 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                        @pete-s said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                        @travisdh1 said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                        @ambarishrh said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                        Not exact features of slack/mattermost, but this looks good too! https://rocket.chat/

                        With video conf, file sharing etc

                        I have rocket.chat running on my NextCloud home lab, it's so easy to install with NextCloud. Just a single click and you're up and running. The only challenge I've run into with it is getting video/audio running online without giving the NextCloud instance it's own public IP address (works fine on the local network).

                        Edit: I'm probably just bad at getting ports forwarded properly.

                        I feel like collaboration, messaging and video has gone the way of emails. It seldom makes sense to host it yourself - unless you have some niche use case. Playing with tech at home could be one of those niche cases 🙂

                        I know Slack is expensive but there are other options out there. And some of them are free or low cost.

                        I mostly agree here. But we seem to find a lot of niche, mostly when dealing with outside companies. Not a single customer we have has a messaging platform that is universal in any way, so we always have to provide one, and doing so for every user, of every customer, isn't cheap unless you host yourself.

                        We use Zoho Cliq's guest chat for that. You can start or add one or several guests to a chat.

                        They get sent a link and can log in (with email OTP) without setting up a Zoho account or installing anything. They have regular chat, video and audio calls, screen sharing and can send files just as regular users can. They close the chat, logout and then login again at a later time and return where they where.

                        The guests UI looks like a super simplified Zoho Cliq.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                          @williamsdanielle said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                          Similar to mattermost you could try Clariti

                          Edited. No links to products for new members.

                          $5000/mo compared to free. Doesn't seem like much of a deal.

                          Where did you get that number from?

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                            VoIP_n00b @1337
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                            @pete-s said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                            We use Zoho Cliq's guest chat for that.

                            Hmmmm.... https://help.zoho.com/portal/en/kb/zoho-cliq/cliq-user-guide/cliq-chats/group-chat/articles/

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                              1337 @VoIP_n00b
                              last edited by 1337

                              @voip_n00b said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                              @pete-s said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                              We use Zoho Cliq's guest chat for that.

                              Hmmmm.... https://help.zoho.com/portal/en/kb/zoho-cliq/cliq-user-guide/cliq-chats/group-chat/articles/

                              I can't get that link to work...

                              If you wanted to know more about guest chat, go here:
                              https://help.zoho.com/portal/en/kb/zoho-cliq/cliq-user-guide/cliq-chats/cliq-chat/articles/what-is-a-guest-chat

                              Zoho Cliq is slightly confusing though because external users and guest users are completely different things.

                              • External users are Zoho Cliq users belonging to another organization. So external to your organization. Anyone can sign up though. So if you invite an external user that doesn't have Zoho Cliq, he will receive an invitation to sign up.

                              • Guest users are non-Zoho Cliq users (that haven't signed up for a Zoho account). If you invite a guest users, they will not receive an invitation to sign up, they will receive a login link so they can chat with you.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                @stacksofplates said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                                @williamsdanielle said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                                Similar to mattermost you could try Clariti

                                Edited. No links to products for new members.

                                $5000/mo compared to free. Doesn't seem like much of a deal.

                                Where did you get that number from?

                                Their website pricing. Just take your number of users and multiply.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @1337
                                  last edited by

                                  @pete-s said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                                  @voip_n00b said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                                  @pete-s said in Mattermost –Open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative:

                                  We use Zoho Cliq's guest chat for that.

                                  Hmmmm.... https://help.zoho.com/portal/en/kb/zoho-cliq/cliq-user-guide/cliq-chats/group-chat/articles/

                                  I can't get that link to work...

                                  If you wanted to know more about guest chat, go here:
                                  https://help.zoho.com/portal/en/kb/zoho-cliq/cliq-user-guide/cliq-chats/cliq-chat/articles/what-is-a-guest-chat

                                  Zoho Cliq is slightly confusing though because external users and guest users are completely different things.

                                  • External users are Zoho Cliq users belonging to another organization. So external to your organization. Anyone can sign up though. So if you invite an external user that doesn't have Zoho Cliq, he will receive an invitation to sign up.

                                  • Guest users are non-Zoho Cliq users (that haven't signed up for a Zoho account). If you invite a guest users, they will not receive an invitation to sign up, they will receive a login link so they can chat with you.

                                  Yeah, we use those features. It's nice.

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