ownCloud warnings
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@JaredBusch yeah, Jared is running the very latest of what seems like the recommended platform. How are we ever supposed to be current if the latest is "old and unsupported?"
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@scottalanmiller said:
@jospoortvliet said:
Seems like your internet connection is working again? If the error is still there, I looked and it is caused by a problem with the CURL version your PHP is built with. In other words, it is a bug in your distribution which causes this error. ownCloud tries to check if it is connected, it gets an error and thus lets you know that. You'll find the error in your logs. See this github issue.
cURL is testing and failing on a certificate, not on the Internet connection according to what I read there. That would mean that the error is also wrong as it isn't the Internet test that failed. So while you can say that cURL has a bug, the error is blatantly wrong given the error that happens. So while cURL needs to be addressed, this is obviously an ownCloud bug too that needs to be fixed. Bubbling up a false error message is always wrong.
True, it'd be nicer to give a warning which accurately reflects the problem. I guess this is low in the stack and can't be detected by ownCloud, or we just didn't get to fixing this part...
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@JaredBusch said:
@JaredBusch said:
@jospoortvliet said:
re why the YUM repo doesn't have ownCloud 9.0 - that might actually be because we don't support your old OS anymore? See the upgrade blog for what we support as of today. You can use packages from another repo, actually, as the 'owncloud-files' one has no dependencies or other magic and thus should work nearly anywhere. That way, you can still have ownCloud 9 if you want.
But I'd recommend not to run such old software if you can avoid it.
My old OS? WTF?
Last login: Wed Mar 9 10:39:15 2016 from 10.254.103.20 [root@oc ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS Linux release 7.2.1511 (Core) [root@oc ~]# rpm -q centos-release centos-release-7-2.1511.el7.centos.2.10.x86_64 [root@oc ~]# uname -rmi 3.10.0-327.10.1.el7.x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 [root@oc ~]#@jospoortvliet I am still waiting on you to answer this...
sorry, I was juggling to many threads and mixing up some. I didn't know what OS you were running, we dropped support for Fedora for example. You run CentOS 7.x, that we provide packages for. And that is all that 'support' means (unless you're paying for a actual support contract with Inc, of course). So if there are problems with a platform we provide packages for - well, we'll warn you about those problems. We can't fix them (your vendor has to) but we warn about them.
See http://mangolassi.it/topic/8379/owncloud-9-is-here/96 for a longer answer to a similar conversation.
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At this point, I am not reading the thread as it is so useless. For the record, I have emailed ownCloud corporate to verify that we don't have a disgruntled employee situation on our hands before this conversation continues. I don't want ownCloud being thrown under the boss if this is not actually an ownCloud representative. A good disgruntled employee wanting to do maximum damage would do so in exactly this way. So I am asking that this thread be locked and not unlocked until ownCloud verifies that we have real representation on this thread. So much damage is being done to their reputation that I feel they need to weigh in and verify that this is intentional.
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I'm working to get some clarification here and appreciate the perspectives on this. While I can't guarantee consensus, hoping to provide some more objective follow-up. Thanks for your patience.
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What's the latest??
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@FATeknollogee said:
What's the latest??
They are between community calls right now. I spoke with them about an hour ago, @JaredBusch is speaking with them shortly. We had a very good conversation and they are preparing a full response but I would assume not until after they speak with Jared as they want to be sure to address his concerns. I think that you will be happy with the response when it comes.
They said that they will link from this thread to the response when it is available.
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@FATeknollogee said:
How is @jospoortvliet related to OC?
He is an engineer with the development team, I believe. He's definitely on staff there.
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To address some questions raised here and elsewhere, please see http://mangolassi.it/topic/8425/owncloud-9-0-ubuntu-and-a-few-more-things. Thanks.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
How is @jospoortvliet related to OC?
He is an engineer with the development team, I believe. He's definitely on staff there.
Or was..
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@Jason said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
How is @jospoortvliet related to OC?
He is an engineer with the development team, I believe. He's definitely on staff there.
Or was..
I'm sure he's just having a "feeling sheepish" day. It was likely an honest fight or flight response that most people have. As an engineer I doubt that he's had training on controlling and identifying those responses like you would hope sales and marketing people would have. I've worked in environments where they test your FoF response daily and try to get you to panic. It's called an amygdala (aka lizard brain) response. If you aren't trained to recognize it, you'll easily have devolving logical discussions without knowing you are losing the sense of it. Not that it never happens to me, but I've had training on it in some crazily intense environments. Specific training where I had to take a year of classes, that sort of thing.
I doubt he's in any trouble. But probably avoiding us today
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@scottalanmiller In terms of installing OwnCloud, would you recommend waiting until aforementioned fixes have been applied?
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@wrx7m said:
@scottalanmiller In terms of installing OwnCloud, would you recommend waiting until aforementioned fixes have been applied?
I have had issues with 9.0 on both Ubuntu and CentOS. I am going to wait for some bugs to be ironed out.
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@IRJ said:
@wrx7m said:
@scottalanmiller In terms of installing OwnCloud, would you recommend waiting until aforementioned fixes have been applied?
I have had issues with 9.0 on both Ubuntu and CentOS. I am going to wait for some bugs to be ironed out.
What issues have you had?
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@coliver said:
@IRJ said:
@wrx7m said:
@scottalanmiller In terms of installing OwnCloud, would you recommend waiting until aforementioned fixes have been applied?
I have had issues with 9.0 on both Ubuntu and CentOS. I am going to wait for some bugs to be ironed out.
What issues have you had?
The installer not working right. I've wiped the VM 3 times now.
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@IRJ said:
@coliver said:
@IRJ said:
@wrx7m said:
@scottalanmiller In terms of installing OwnCloud, would you recommend waiting until aforementioned fixes have been applied?
I have had issues with 9.0 on both Ubuntu and CentOS. I am going to wait for some bugs to be ironed out.
What issues have you had?
The installer not working right. I've wiped the VM 3 times now.
Ouch :(. That's interesting.
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They have at least updated the PHP warning to something intelligent.
But the rest of the issues supposedly addressed after this thread was created are still not resolved. This is from a fully patched and updated 9.0.2 install.
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[root@owncloud owncloud]# yum list owncloud* Loaded plugins: fastestmirror Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * base: centos.den.host-engine.com * epel: mirror.unl.edu * extras: repos.dfw.quadranet.com * updates: mirror.raystedman.net Installed Packages owncloud.noarch 9.0.2-2.1 @ce_9.0 owncloud-deps-php5.noarch 9.0.2-2.1 @ce_9.0 owncloud-files.noarch 9.0.2-2.1 @ce_9.0 Available Packages owncloud-httpd.noarch 8.1.6-1.el7 epel owncloud-mysql.noarch 8.1.6-1.el7 epel owncloud-nginx.noarch 8.1.6-1.el7 epel owncloud-postgresql.noarch 8.1.6-1.el7 epel owncloud-sqlite.noarch 8.1.6-1.el7 epel [root@owncloud owncloud]#
