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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      That's going to be my new phrase...

      RAID 1 and Done.

      Sounds like a new SMBITJournal article in the making, ha ha ha.

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      • PSX_DefectorP
        PSX_Defector @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Dashrender said:

        To me it feels like the author is still approaching it from an old school disk performance perspective. One that perhaps wasn't ever really valid (but maybe it was).

        I wouldn't call it old school. This was always a silly practice. It's more of just not understanding why things were done and applying them at the wrong time. He is, I think, confusing 1990's array tuning with partition log growth protection.

        What, you mean to tell me putting my database on the inside tracks of my disk is no longer valid? What about when I use my SSDs, surely they will appreciate the lower access time of being closer to the controller!

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @PSX_Defector
          last edited by

          @PSX_Defector said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          To me it feels like the author is still approaching it from an old school disk performance perspective. One that perhaps wasn't ever really valid (but maybe it was).

          I wouldn't call it old school. This was always a silly practice. It's more of just not understanding why things were done and applying them at the wrong time. He is, I think, confusing 1990's array tuning with partition log growth protection.

          What, you mean to tell me putting my database on the inside tracks of my disk is no longer valid? What about when I use my SSDs, surely they will appreciate the lower access time of being closer to the controller!

          OMG short stroking.... it's been forever since I heard people talking about that.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            I always buy extra short cables to improve latency.

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            • J
              Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              I always buy extra short cables to improve latency.

              Youtube Video

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              • brianlittlejohnB
                brianlittlejohn @Jason
                last edited by

                @Jason said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                I always buy extra short cables to improve latency.

                Youtube Video

                Haha!

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                • PSX_DefectorP
                  PSX_Defector @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @PSX_Defector said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  To me it feels like the author is still approaching it from an old school disk performance perspective. One that perhaps wasn't ever really valid (but maybe it was).

                  I wouldn't call it old school. This was always a silly practice. It's more of just not understanding why things were done and applying them at the wrong time. He is, I think, confusing 1990's array tuning with partition log growth protection.

                  What, you mean to tell me putting my database on the inside tracks of my disk is no longer valid? What about when I use my SSDs, surely they will appreciate the lower access time of being closer to the controller!

                  OMG short stroking.... it's been forever since I heard people talking about that.

                  Last time someone mentioned it to me was back in 2011. Had to correct the fool about the fact he was running on a huge HP 585 using 15K RPM SAS drives. Even if we could lay out the sectors that way, it was no longer applicable because the controller was the bottleneck at that point.

                  These old ass ways of thinking still permeate various circles. Especially in old school mainframe guys, the ones who don't giggle when you mention you once had a Wang.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @Jason
                    last edited by

                    @Jason said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    I always buy extra short cables to improve latency.

                    https://www.youtube.com

                    OMG - who is that guy clowning on?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @PSX_Defector
                      last edited by

                      @PSX_Defector said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @PSX_Defector said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      To me it feels like the author is still approaching it from an old school disk performance perspective. One that perhaps wasn't ever really valid (but maybe it was).

                      I wouldn't call it old school. This was always a silly practice. It's more of just not understanding why things were done and applying them at the wrong time. He is, I think, confusing 1990's array tuning with partition log growth protection.

                      What, you mean to tell me putting my database on the inside tracks of my disk is no longer valid? What about when I use my SSDs, surely they will appreciate the lower access time of being closer to the controller!

                      OMG short stroking.... it's been forever since I heard people talking about that.

                      Last time someone mentioned it to me was back in 2011. Had to correct the fool about the fact he was running on a huge HP 585 using 15K RPM SAS drives. Even if we could lay out the sectors that way, it was no longer applicable because the controller was the bottleneck at that point.

                      These old ass ways of thinking still permeate various circles. Especially in old school mainframe guys, the ones who don't giggle when you mention you once had a Wang.

                      LOL - I've actually never heard someone talk about doing this... not surprised... but damn!

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
                        last edited by JaredBusch

                        Back on topic, I found the msexchange.org guides to be very thorough. I used the 2007 to 2013 one over the weekend and 2007 to 2010 in the past.

                        I will admit, that I did ignore all the info on sizing and running the MS tools and shit.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          Back on topic, I found the msexchange.org guides to be very thorough. I used the 2007 to 2013 one over the weekend and 2007 to 2010 in the past.

                          I will admit, that I did ignore all the info on sizing and running the MS tools and shit.

                          Agreed - the sizing/drive layout seem to be where they are completely crazy.. the rest seems fine, even if occasionally a little light on documentation.

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