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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Joy
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      @Joy said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @Joy said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @Joy said:

      Reading about "How to set up
      WSUS on server 2008 😑

      are you limited to a 7 year old OS on purpose?

      It was just a test-set up.

      Things have changed quite a bit... might be learning something for nothing if you do plan to deploy this on Server 2012R2.

      We will use windows server 2008.
      I was following this guide.
      https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd939859(v=ws.10).aspx

      OK, Mind if I ask why you are using a 7+ year old OS? Will the company not buy a new license?

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      • JoyJ
        Joy @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        @Joy said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @Joy said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @Joy said:

        Reading about "How to set up
        WSUS on server 2008 😑

        are you limited to a 7 year old OS on purpose?

        It was just a test-set up.

        Things have changed quite a bit... might be learning something for nothing if you do plan to deploy this on Server 2012R2.

        We will use windows server 2008.
        I was following this guide.
        https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd939859(v=ws.10).aspx

        OK, Mind if I ask why you are using a 7+ year old OS? Will the company not buy a new license?

        Well, Windows 7 is pretty good for production use.
        As you know, users get to used to it.

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender We're migrating this year from 8 to 12, it's not a small task. Only reason we're doing it is because we got a smoking deal on licensing from techsoup!

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @Joy
            last edited by

            @Joy said:

            Well, Windows 7 is pretty good for production use.
            As you know, users get to used to it.

            But that has nothing to do with what severs you have in the Datacenter.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @MattSpeller
              last edited by

              @MattSpeller said:

              @Dashrender We're migrating this year from 8 to 12, it's not a small task. Only reason we're doing it is because we got a smoking deal on licensing from techsoup!

              We're not talking about migrating, Joy is talking about deploying a new server to use for WSUS. Since this is a new server, I'm just wondering why she isn't doing it on Server 2012r2 instead of Server 2008.

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender I deployed an 8 this week because of licensing. Unless you're 12 on the hypervisor the licencing gets really screwball (which is why we bought datacenter(and the cause of our issues) )

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                • JoyJ
                  Joy @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @MattSpeller said:

                  @Dashrender We're migrating this year from 8 to 12, it's not a small task. Only reason we're doing it is because we got a smoking deal on licensing from techsoup!

                  We're not talking about migrating, Joy is talking about deploying a new server to use for WSUS. Since this is a new server, I'm just wondering why she isn't doing it on Server 2012r2 instead of Server 2008.

                  Hmm, I checked our list of licenses and I found out we have a lot of Windows2012 license.
                  Forgive me but, may I ask what's the difference on Win Server 2008 and Win Server 2012 when deploying WSUS? 😳
                  Since I will do this for the first time.

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                  • RojoLocoR
                    RojoLoco @MattSpeller
                    last edited by

                    @MattSpeller said:

                    @Dashrender I deployed an 8 this week because of licensing. Unless you're 12 on the hypervisor the licencing gets really screwball (which is why we bought datacenter(and the cause of our issues) )

                    I know it's wrong, but I put datacenter 12 as the hypervisor so I could just have at it. This is only a test environment, of course, but even on a T3500 desktop it runs pretty well. No license worries, though....

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
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                      @RojoLoco said:

                      I know it's wrong, but I put datacenter 12 as the hypervisor so I could just have at it. This is only a test environment, of course, but even on a T3500 desktop it runs pretty well. No license worries, though....

                      Nothing really wrong with it in my opinion. Installing it as core+gui for initial setup and then backing it down to core only after the hyper-v setup is done is still a solid hyper-visor.

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                      • RojoLocoR
                        RojoLoco @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @RojoLoco said:

                        I know it's wrong, but I put datacenter 12 as the hypervisor so I could just have at it. This is only a test environment, of course, but even on a T3500 desktop it runs pretty well. No license worries, though....

                        Nothing really wrong with it in my opinion. Installing it as core+gui for initial setup and then backing it down to core only after the hyper-v setup is done is still a solid hyper-visor.

                        Ya know, I never thought to put it back to just core... but I use the host machine for stuff too. Q4 is when we get new hardware... dammit.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @RojoLoco
                          last edited by JaredBusch

                          @RojoLoco said:

                          but I use the host machine for stuff too.

                          That part is the wrong part. You are using DC, just spin up another Windows VM.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Just got back from our first load to the storage unit. Managed to get away with a little 5x5 unit for just $22/mo. Not too bad.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                              last edited by

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @Dashrender I deployed an 8 this week because of licensing. Unless you're 12 on the hypervisor the licencing gets really screwball (which is why we bought datacenter(and the cause of our issues) )

                              The hypervisor has nothing to do with what you can use on top of it. Licensing from the hypervisor comes down purely to "virtualization: yes or now". What the hypervisor is never changes the licensing of Windows on top of it.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                                @RojoLoco said:

                                Ya know, I never thought to put it back to just core... but I use the host machine for stuff too. Q4 is when we get new hardware... dammit.

                                That's not a good design. It's "legal" because it is DC licensing but it would be very bad with standard licensing. But it is an anti-best practice in general. Remember the "host" machine is not the host, it's a control environment designed to only be used to manage HyperV, never should anything else happen there.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  I am trying to imagine a use for 2,400 3.5" HDD per year.
                                  http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1194915-where-to-order-hard-drives-in-bulk

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch posted in that one earlier, that was my thought too.

                                    in before NSA 😛

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      That is a LOT of drives.

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                                      • gjacobseG
                                        gjacobse
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                                        Think I am done for the day.. Shutting down so I can be here tomorrow....

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                                          @gjacobse said:

                                          Think I am done for the day.. Shutting down so I can be here tomorrow....

                                          Have fun.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            Almost ready to head to SpiceWorld tomorrow. Getting everything lined up.

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