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    Interested in Working with the NTG Lab?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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      @anonymous said:

      @scottalanmiller What the monthly cost? How you consider other options? Storing it at someones workspace?

      Sure, but the cost of running the gear in an office is higher in terms of electricity and connectivity. So that doesn't work. Powering and cooling a lab of this scale isn't trivial in any way. And not having good filtered air and HVAC and UPS and all that means that the equipment is far more expensive to operate.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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        @anonymous said:

        @scottalanmiller What the monthly cost? How you consider other options? Storing it at someones workspace?

        No matter where it resides physically there will costs for power, cooling, network, bandwidth, etc.

        I know that I do not run my lab at home so that I do not have to bear those costs. My gear is in a collocation rack in St. Louis currently, but the availability of that space could be lost at any time and then I will have to work up a new solution.

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        • Deleted74295D
          Deleted74295 Banned
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          Commercially, I'd love to use this for production "demos" to clients.

          Show them "This is your network on a SAN" watch me break it

          Then show them "This is your well designed proper network, watch me break it and recover from it quickly.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said:

            @anonymous said:

            @scottalanmiller What the monthly cost? How you consider other options? Storing it at someones workspace?

            No matter where it resides physically there will costs for power, cooling, network, bandwidth, etc.

            But not costs to us. Hosting it in an office we have to pay for those things and from what we've seen in NY, they cost more alone than the full cots of hosting in a DC where all of those costs are predictable and included.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre
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              I am assuming that the monthly charge would be to help off-set the costs or completely cover them?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @dafyre
                last edited by

                @dafyre said:

                I am assuming that the monthly charge would be to help off-set the costs or completely cover them?

                It would take a lot of people to cover the cost. It's just to offset as much as possible.

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                • W
                  WingCreative
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                  I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this, sounds like a really interesting idea!

                  Especially since I've been wanting some hands-on experience with Scale hardware...

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @WingCreative
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                    @WingCreative I'm ready to see their 5.x series firmware (I forget what they call it now, lol). Their 4.3 series was awesome!

                    My buddies at my last job are tyring to figure out how to do 4.3 -> 5.x since it is a destructive upgrade. O.o

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @dafyre
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                      @dafyre said:

                      Maybe even pair people up in roles they've never held before... like putting me with somebody who has lots of XenServer experience... and then pairing me up with somebody who does not have a lot of Hyper-V experience...

                      This would be valuable to me. @dafyre just beat me to posting it.

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                      • AmbarishrhA
                        Ambarishrh
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                        I like the idea, may be there can be a catalog which can be published for us to know whats available, and probably post results/how to if interested here in ML with the project details.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          I posted some of the details of the current lab detail up above. More will be added in the future, or swapped out or changed. It's not a static thing, but once in a datacenter the change rate will drop considerably.

                          Hoping to rack an old SunFire V100 with FreeBSD too.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Want to see one of these bad boys or maybe even a larger system in as part of the Solaris lab. Real Solaris on Sparc with CoolThreads (Sparc T / Niagara) processors. Would not be a massive system, but it is a RISC / minicomputer for the lab and would be able to run the very latest Solaris OS and be a virtualization platform for Sparc/RISC which would be awesome for people to get to touch both at the OS and at the hardware level. Don't know any labs running this class of gear in the SMB.

                            SunFire T5120

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              I forgot to mention that there would be a range of backup software and tools in the lab too, perfect for learning about those technologies as well. Physical Unitrends appliances are in the lab and we will have StorageCraft software there as well. Probably more, but those right from the beginning.

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre
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                                It has been a month now... Any more info on this moving forward?

                                If not, what about using the existing NTG Labs for something like this?

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                                • Minion QueenM
                                  Minion Queen
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                                  We are waiting on a few key pieces of hardware to arrive. Once they do we will be moving everything to our Colo.

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                                  • brianlittlejohnB
                                    brianlittlejohn
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                                    I would be interested in participating!

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      The big new gear is "in the mail." Three huge compute and storage nodes, dual 10GigE fiber switches.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Due to arrive a week from tomorrow.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre
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                                          Nice! Is this going to be done with Scale / VMware or are you going to try and cram as much stuff in the colo rack as possible?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                            @dafyre said:

                                            Nice! Is this going to be done with Scale / VMware or are you going to try and cram as much stuff in the colo rack as possible?

                                            Um... both?

                                            Scale gear, going to do physical lab stuff first, then off to the colo with it once that testing is done.

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