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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

      Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @DustinB3403 said:

        So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

        Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

        Would you need RAID 10 for this? Maybe RAID 6 would work for this use case?

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          It's a matter of reliability.

          Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

            Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

            Why not an R510, much cheaper.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              Plus moving as much data as we have off weekly the write speed gain would be worth it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said:

                It's a matter of reliability.

                Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

                Check the price of RE drives in RAID 6. Might be cheaper with 12 drives.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by DustinB3403

                  Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

                  At RAID 6

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

                    At RAID 6

                    So WD Red (Consumer 5400 RPM) for 24TB is $1800.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      WD RE (Enterprise) in RAID 6 would be 30TB for $1884.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        So Red would be just barely cheaper, RE would be just barely larger. Red would be faster for random writes. RE way faster for reads.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          If you went for smaller WD RE drives (2TB instead of 3TB) you could get 20TB usable for just $1,380.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            For everyone's reference:

                            WD Red is consumer, 5400 RPM
                            WD Red Pro is consumer, 7200 RPM
                            WD RE is enterprise, 7200 RPM

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              The trouble is at 24TB for backup there isn't much room for growth with this backup solution

                              So larger drives would be needed.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said:

                                The trouble is at 24TB for backup there isn't much room for growth with this backup solution

                                So larger drives would be needed.

                                Then going to 30TB would be good.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  If you splurge to $2,352 you can leap to the 4TB RE drives and suddenly you have 40TB to work with!

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Now that remains SATA. If you are worried about performance the 4TB WD RE SAS drives will give you a huge boost in random access and only cost $2,436. Now that much more.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      And, of course, to overwhelm you with options, you could get WD RE 6TB drives and get 8 of them. This would be much slower and give you 36TB today in RAID 6. But over time you could grow up to 60TB in that setup. Up front 36TB cost would be $3,280.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        So 3TB Drives RAID 6.

                                        No write performance though from the RAID.

                                        Off Hypervisor, over the internet at 5841GB (30MBps pipe Asymetric) ...
                                        Weekly.... would take 21 Days to perform a single backup operation... (roughly)

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          I'm thinking our internet performance would have to take a huge leap as well for off site.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            At those speeds you don't care about the write penalties of the RAID 6, you just need enough performance to take the WAN pipe speeds, which is almost nothing.

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