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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said:

      No 8 TB was to perform weekly fulls at the current infrastructure size.

      Wait, if a full is 8TB, where did I get 22TB from?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        Incremental changes are likely > 20 Gb/day

        Oh that's nothing. Just seed a backup device and set it remote.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @DustinB3403 said:

          No 8 TB was to perform weekly fulls at the current infrastructure size.

          Wait, if a full is 8TB, where did I get 22TB from?

          Full Backup retention for an entire month.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @DustinB3403 said:

            No 8 TB was to perform weekly fulls at the current infrastructure size.

            Wait, if a full is 8TB, where did I get 22TB from?

            Full Backup retention for an entire month.

            That would be 32TB then.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              Actually it's technically a 7 day swap cycle now for what we have.

              Might have to keep the same process if I want to reduce IT's labor on the backup process. (Weekends count to computers)

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @DustinB3403 said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @DustinB3403 said:

                No 8 TB was to perform weekly fulls at the current infrastructure size.

                Wait, if a full is 8TB, where did I get 22TB from?

                Full Backup retention for an entire month.

                That would be 32TB then.

                8 TB is with growth... currently he's at just over 6 TB.
                so 24 TB for a month

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller Only if we we're fully using all 8TB.

                  We have free space on the systems now and are only using approximately 6TB of total 8TB capacity in the infrastructure.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    I'm really lost - why are you worrying about full backups when you have a StorageCraft backup solution?

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender So if something should happen to the vDISK on XS. That we have a way to simply import a 2TB file to the server, and turn it on.

                      Trying to K.I.S.S

                      😛

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        @Dashrender So if something should happen to the vDISK on XS. That we have a way to simply import a 2TB file to the server, and turn it on.

                        Trying to K.I.S.S

                        😛

                        Can't you get that from the StorageCraft system?

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          Not effectively (at least with what we have).

                          Fulls currently take over 24 hours to generate when their needed. So fulls are almost never taken.

                          But our system partitions are ignored, besides 2 servers.

                          I want to include everything in the backup process. So everything is protected.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            I'd say your two separate backup solutions aren't very simple. One extra thing that can fail. One extra thing to maintain/mange.

                            StorageCraft for daily incrementals
                            and home built solution for weekly fulls.

                            Maybe StorageCraft can actually create the tapes for you?

                            I know when I was looking at Backup Exec it could. It would pull incrementals daily, then it could spin down full backups to tape on whatever schedule you wanted. It would create a virtual full backup at that given point in time and that is what was backed up to tape.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              Incremental changes can be written to local onsite storage, but this doesn't include recovery options for "everything" just the system changes from the past 3 (but should be 7 days).

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                and home built solution for weekly fulls.

                                I might be being mean to NAUBackup, calling it home built.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  Fulls currently take over 24 hours to generate when their needed. So fulls are almost never taken.

                                  It takes 24 hours to generate a full backup from StorageCraft? Why? What's the hold up?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    Fulls currently take over 24 hours to generate when their needed. So fulls are almost never taken.

                                    It takes 24 hours to generate a full backup from StorageCraft? Why? What's the hold up?

                                    Yeah, this seems like a major problem. If it takes that long to take a backup, what's the restore process look like?

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller We've never had to perform a full restore thank god.

                                      But I'd imagine that it's awful.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        This is also why we really only perform hourly incremental backups currently.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          @scottalanmiller We've never had to perform a full restore thank god.

                                          But I'd imagine that it's awful.

                                          And it is the reason that backups exist in the first place 😉

                                          If restoring a full is bad, imagine having to restore a full plus an incremental!

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            When you said it took 24 hours to generate - I thought you mean to do a restore, but after reading your comments, it takes 24 hours to take a backup?

                                            Oh man - WHY? I'd look into fixing that problem, or ditching the StorageCraft all together. In keeping with your own desire to K.I.S.S. I don't see you have any other choice.

                                            From here it looks like you're trying to solve one problem by throwing another solution at it instead of fixing the problem.

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