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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Might as well loop in StorageCraft themselves too: @Steven

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        If you identify a single server that needs more speed, you can go up to triple or quadruple GigE if need be before making a leap to 10GigE connections.

        What's the current cost for a 10 GigE card. Assuming he doesn't already have open ports of GigE, he'll need to buy regardless.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          I'm surprised, an unmanged 10 GigE swith 8 port is $760

          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122529

          A two port card from Dell is $650. Third party might be considerably less.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Yup, I've been pushing Netgear 10GigE for a long time now. I think that Dell has some decent 10GigE fiber switches for around $2K as well.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
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              Damn the 12 port vs the 8 port is double the price of the 8 port, $1450.. ouch!

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                Damn the 12 port vs the 8 port is double the price of the 8 port, $1450.. ouch!

                I bet if you check the backplane gets a lot faster.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  It might be the route we go with, 10GigE switch with bonded NICS or dedicated 10GigE NICS on each host.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    How many VM hosts do you have?

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      1 Currently that is stand alone.

                      The equipment we're looking into would be a dual host setup. "Primary Primary" so to speak.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        A long time ago I remember seeing some documentation (sales pamphlet) for industrial 10G switches. Small little units, 5 ports.

                        I can remember for the life of me their name though as this was years ago.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          A long time ago I remember seeing some documentation (sales pamphlet) for industrial 10G switches. Small little units, 5 ports.

                          I can remember for the life of me their name though as this was years ago.

                          Netgear has some fairly inexpensive managed switches that have 10G uplink ports. I think in the 800-900$ range. You could look into those if you don't need a ton of 10Gbe ports.

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                          • DustinB3403D
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                            Yeah I'm thinking we won't need many.

                            Just device to device basically.

                            From XenServer host to onsite backup device.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              Yeah I'm thinking we won't need many.

                              Just device to device basically.

                              From XenServer host to onsite backup device.

                              Yep, I can't remember the model number but Netgear, in the last year, released a model with 4 10Gbe ports.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Likely four ports won't be enough.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller Even if we spent for the 10G NICs in the servers?

                                  2 Hypervisors 1 Backup device.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    @scottalanmiller Even if we spent for the 10G NICs in the servers?

                                    2 Hypervisors 1 Backup device.

                                    Oh, so two servers and one backup device and one uplink to the rest of the network? Four ports might do it then. But.... no redundancy at all?

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      Cost consciousness.

                                      Is there that much added value in doubling what we have for those "if" events.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver
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                                        Nevermind, I was thinking about the S3300 series, they have 2 uplink ports. There are 2 10Gb copper or fiber ports that you can use interchangeably... but only two at a time. They do have the XT712T but I have a feeling that may be a bit too expensive.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          Cost consciousness.

                                          Is there that much added value in doubling what we have for those "if" events.

                                          NICs and switches tend to die and it doubles throughput.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
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                                            Well even in that case I would still look at a bigger switch with 8 - 12 ports. possibly with some level of management on it.

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