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    Do you use Antimalware software in addition to Antivirus software?

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      Well, like the title asks.

      I currently don't, and hadn't really considered it. At least I don't use anything that's not part of my AV solution.

      you?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        We use Webroot for AV and MalwareBytes for AM.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          We use Webroot for AV and MalwareBytes for AM.

          and you find the expense worth while?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            We use Webroot for AV and MalwareBytes for AM.

            and you find the expense worth while?

            Yup

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            • W
              WingCreative
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              With Malwarebytes, do you stick with a Premium license ($30/PC/year) or go for the endpoint solution ($50/PC/year)?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @WingCreative
                last edited by

                @WingCreative I would expect the Endpoint solution.

                Anything not centrally managed is just more costly to attempt to manage. At any size.

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                  Jason Banned @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  @WingCreative I would expect the Endpoint solution.

                  Anything not centrally managed is just more costly to attempt to manage. At any size.

                  I wouldn't say at any size Small companies with 10-20 wouldn't worth the cost.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    Well it's a matter of hours.

                    If it takes 3 minutes to clean up(scan/remove/reboot/recan) malware on 1 PC and you have 20 PC's you're spending 1 Hour of IT time on managing a solution across those 20 machines.

                    What's you're IT person's rate? For simple math lets use $25/Hour

                    So the company has already spent $25 to clean up a known incident.

                    If you want to regularly scan your systems for malware this would have to become a scheduled task. Which with the standalone versions, has scheduling, but still requires input from the IT person or user.

                    So again back to weekly task, 20 computers at 1 Hour per week with a rate of 25/Hour, 52 weeks a year. You're look at $1300 a year.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said:

                      @WingCreative I would expect the Endpoint solution.

                      Anything not centrally managed is just more costly to attempt to manage. At any size.

                      Not at any size. And especially not if your end users are mostly technical. We do not use the centrally managed option, although I would like to see that added.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        What's you're IT person's rate? For simple math lets use $25/Hour

                        If the employee is making $25/hour, then the cost to the company is not $25/hour, it is higher.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          We aren't including the downtime of the system being worked on.

                          Straight company cost to work on a group of devices.

                          If the employees rate if $25/Hour and it takes 1 hour to complete, the company pays out $25. They don't pay for lost productivity. That's a backend cost that can't easily (and in this imaginary scenario) be quantified.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            What's you're IT person's rate? For simple math lets use $25/Hour

                            If the employee is making $25/hour, then the cost to the company is not $25/hour, it is higher.

                            LOL, but you're missing the point of his post.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              LOL, but you're missing the point of his post.

                              I understand the point, but use more realistic numbers.

                              The cost to the company for that employee will be at least $31.25 (125%) but I like to calculate rough numbers for unknown company structures at (150%) so that would be $37.50 to the company for that $25/hour worker.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                not to mention the 15 mins of interruption to that employee that you kicked out of his seat to do the 3 min job.

                                Since we're nitpicking the costs here, lol

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  There is also the possibility that someone runs many of them, at once, after hours so the cost of the IT staff is much lower, possibly free if it is done with idle time from a help desk resource, and no non-IT staff are interrupted.

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                                  • donaldlandruD
                                    donaldlandru @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    @WingCreative I would expect the Endpoint solution.

                                    Anything not centrally managed is just more costly to attempt to manage. At any size.

                                    Maybe I am reading this wrong, but I think what @WingCreative was asking is the Malwarebytes Endpoint Security $50 vs Malwarebytes Anti-Malware for Business $30 , both of which have centralized management.

                                    According to This comparison chart the only difference between the two is "Advanced anti-exploit protection
                                    (Patent-pending exploit mitigation technology)"

                                    Please correct me if I am wrong; however, I am not sure what "Advanced anti-exploitation" is other than a marketing term, let alone is it worth an extra $20 per PC .

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                                    • Reid CooperR
                                      Reid Cooper
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                                      I think that that was what he was asking. Here is the chart, if people can read it:

                                      malwarebytes.png

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                                        WingCreative @donaldlandru
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                                        @donaldlandru said:

                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        @WingCreative I would expect the Endpoint solution.

                                        Anything not centrally managed is just more costly to attempt to manage. At any size.

                                        Maybe I am reading this wrong, but I think what @WingCreative was asking is the Malwarebytes Endpoint Security $50 vs Malwarebytes Anti-Malware for Business $30 , both of which have centralized management.

                                        According to This comparison chart the only difference between the two is "Advanced anti-exploit protection
                                        (Patent-pending exploit mitigation technology)"

                                        Please correct me if I am wrong; however, I am not sure what "Advanced anti-exploitation" is other than a marketing term, let alone is it worth an extra $20 per PC .

                                        That's exactly the question I was asking, thanks for clarifying 🙂 Although I wasn't aware the $30/mo option had centralized management too!

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                                        • donaldlandruD
                                          donaldlandru
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                                          @scottalanmiller since you are the only one who has said they are running this. I have a couple questions that I think add value.

                                          1. Are you running MBAM for Business, MB Endpoint, or some other flavor that us mere mortals don't have access too?
                                          2. If using MB Endpoint can you qualify what "Advanced anti-exploit protection" is?
                                          3. What is your take on Malware protection on production Windows servers (AD, file, print, SharePoint, etc) -- is it required?

                                          According to the techspecs they say the product is unsupported on server core installations, I would think any Windows device is susceptible to malware if one tries hard enough.

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                                            Jason Banned @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by Jason

                                            @DustinB3403 said:

                                            If it takes 3 minutes to clean up(scan/remove/reboot/recan) malware on 1 PC and you have 20 PC's you're spending 1 Hour of IT time on managing a solution across those 20 machines.

                                            Central management doesn't play to much in cleaning, yes it can still do it automatically as does standalone endpoints. but you really should still have a technician touch a computer that has had an infection.

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