What Is Your Educational Goal
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@Dashrender said:
Holy crap! You just depressed the *&^$ out of me.
It's a depressing situation. It is the Peter Principle applies to life: employees only stop being promoted once they can no longer perform effectively, and "managers rise to the level of their incompetence."
Some people find their last level of competence in high school and anything beyond it is where they stop, having gone beyond their successful abilities. For others they make it through college but that's the last level at which they are competent. Others make it to adult life and careers while still being competent.
Each is likely to see the "last level of competence" as their glory years and where they "ended up" as depressing, since they are beyond their competence and just treading water on the verge of failure.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You never find people with these feelings that also went on to great careers or are happy with where they are in life.
I don't know. I've talked to several people who would be considered very successful with great careers who yearn for the glory days. I think there is a specific personality where this happens. I myself don't understand it you couldn't pay me to be in high school or college again.
Are they successful like they are super happy or are they just making good money?
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@coliver said:
I myself don't understand it you couldn't pay me to be in high school or college again.
I enjoyed both, but like life now far better.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
To be fair... I also know several cashiers and others who have the same mentality. I think it is a fairly universal thing for a specific personality type.
Which mentality is that? I'm not tracking.
The "Glory Days" Mentality. People who see that their best days are behind them and wish they could relive them.
I would expect that in cashiers. They might not talk about it as their glory days might not even be high school but might be middle school or even elementary school. But chances are, there was a time when they felt confident and happy and at some point, that stopped.
Nothing wrong with being a cashier, that people have different levels of competence isn't a bad thing. People are all different and we need lots of variety in the world. But figuring out how to be happy and work from the Dilbert Principle instead of the Peter Principle in our own lives is important.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You never find people with these feelings that also went on to great careers or are happy with where they are in life.
I don't know. I've talked to several people who would be considered very successful with great careers who yearn for the glory days. I think there is a specific personality where this happens. I myself don't understand it you couldn't pay me to be in high school or college again.
Are they successful like they are super happy or are they just making good money?
Both.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
To be fair... I also know several cashiers and others who have the same mentality. I think it is a fairly universal thing for a specific personality type.
Which mentality is that? I'm not tracking.
The "Glory Days" Mentality. People who see that their best days are behind them and wish they could relive them.
I would expect that in cashiers. They might not talk about it as their glory days might not even be high school but might be middle school or even elementary school. But chances are, there was a time when they felt confident and happy and at some point, that stopped.
Nothing wrong with being a cashier, that people have different levels of competence isn't a bad thing. People are all different and we need lots of variety in the world. But figuring out how to be happy and work from the Dilbert Principle instead of the Peter Principle in our own lives is important.
Right, nothing wrong with being a cashier that wasn't my intention. Just trying to draw contrast.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
To be fair... I also know several cashiers and others who have the same mentality. I think it is a fairly universal thing for a specific personality type.
Which mentality is that? I'm not tracking.
The "Glory Days" Mentality. People who see that their best days are behind them and wish they could relive them.
I would fully expect that from the typical cashier.
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And I have been a cashier, so.....
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
To be fair... I also know several cashiers and others who have the same mentality. I think it is a fairly universal thing for a specific personality type.
Which mentality is that? I'm not tracking.
The "Glory Days" Mentality. People who see that their best days are behind them and wish they could relive them.
I would fully expect that from the typical cashier.
But I've also seen it from people who would be considered very successful. I don't think it is limited to just people who have exceeded their maximum competency.
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@scottalanmiller said:
And I have been a cashier, so.....
As have I. Worked in a hardware store throughout high school and college. It was a great way to earn money but I couldn't imagine doing that for the rest of my life.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
You never find people with these feelings that also went on to great careers or are happy with where they are in life.
I don't know. I've talked to several people who would be considered very successful with great careers who yearn for the glory days. I think there is a specific personality where this happens. I myself don't understand it you couldn't pay me to be in high school or college again.
Are they successful like they are super happy or are they just making good money?
The case I can think of, they are making good money, but hate their job.
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Good to read, I was considering on converting my experience into Degree of IT Major in Management.
(There was a university offered like that) As here in the Philippines most companies value the university graduate. Opps before that, I still have 1 year and half to decide. -
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
And I have been a cashier, so.....
As have I. Worked in a hardware store throughout high school and college. It was a great way to earn money but I couldn't imagine doing that for the rest of my life.
Same here, though only through high school. Completely skipped working in fast food, or really food of any kind (I did work on a farm for two years).
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@Joy said:
Good to read, I was considering on converting my experience into Degree of IT Major in Management.
(There was a university offered like that) As here in the Philippines most companies value the university graduate. Opps before that, I still have 1 year and half to decide.University is free in Germany!
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@Dashrender said:
Same here, though only through high school. Completely skipped working in fast food, or really food of any kind (I did work on a farm for two years).
Farm, fast food, "high end" food washing dishes, retirement home food service, pizza places, grocery store, hotels...
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Same here, though only through high school. Completely skipped working in fast food, or really food of any kind (I did work on a farm for two years).
Farm, fast food, "high end" food washing dishes, retirement home food service, pizza places, grocery store, hotels...
Yeah, You've had more jobs in 1-2 years than I've had in a life time.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Joy said:
Good to read, I was considering on converting my experience into Degree of IT Major in Management.
(There was a university offered like that) As here in the Philippines most companies value the university graduate. Opps before that, I still have 1 year and half to decide.University is free in Germany!
Lols I wish they're not too far from me, or must be great if I will have an host family.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
And I have been a cashier, so.....
As have I. Worked in a hardware store throughout high school and college. It was a great way to earn money but I couldn't imagine doing that for the rest of my life.
Same here, though only through high school. Completely skipped working in fast food, or really food of any kind (I did work on a farm for two years).
I worked as clean-up crew in a diner for ~6 months... never again.
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@Dashrender said:
Yeah, You've had more jobs in 1-2 years than I've had in a life time.
That was like six years. That was all through high school and the college years.
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@Joy said:
Lols I wish they're not too far from me, or must be great if I will have an host family.
They might provide housing. You should look into it.
