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    • coliverC
      coliver @MattSpeller
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      @MattSpeller said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      These things tend to cater to a lot of bad behaviour.

      And how - they are absolutely chock full of insane stuff to use in a business. None the less, decent hardware and OS at the end of the day.

      Are those really necessary in this instance? It seems like having on site storage would be a terrible idea for this company.

      My recommendation would be to look at Office 365 and see if that feature set works for you. One Drive for Business would be amazing for your users.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @coliver
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        @coliver said:

        @MattSpeller said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        These things tend to cater to a lot of bad behaviour.

        And how - they are absolutely chock full of insane stuff to use in a business. None the less, decent hardware and OS at the end of the day.

        Are those really necessary in this instance? It seems like having on site storage would be a terrible idea for this company.

        My recommendation would be to look at Office 365 and see if that feature set works for you. One Drive for Business would be amazing for your users.

        I agree. Unless there is a very special case need the whole idea of local storage at all seems wrong. Sure there might be no WAN or something odd, but then the VPN for remote access would not apply. Office 365, Google Drive, DropBox and other tools are almost always the right ones here.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @coliver said:

          @MattSpeller said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          These things tend to cater to a lot of bad behaviour.

          And how - they are absolutely chock full of insane stuff to use in a business. None the less, decent hardware and OS at the end of the day.

          Are those really necessary in this instance? It seems like having on site storage would be a terrible idea for this company.

          My recommendation would be to look at Office 365 and see if that feature set works for you. One Drive for Business would be amazing for your users.

          I agree. Unless there is a very special case need the whole idea of local storage at all seems wrong. Sure there might be no WAN or something odd, but then the VPN for remote access would not apply. Office 365, Google Drive, DropBox and other tools are almost always the right ones here.

          Dropbox for Business was basically designed for this scenario. It will even to LAN syncing so you just have to seed it once and all the computers will talk to each other over the LAN.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            One is current, one is old.

            From looking I thought they were in different lines. Plus versus value.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              Actually that applies to desktop imaging too 😉

              Shaddup. LOL.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                One is current, one is old.

                From looking I thought they were in different lines. Plus versus value.

                I do not believe so. Could be wrong.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill
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                  I'm in the middle of a crisis now at work, but I will post on Office 365 info soon.

                  This could be a record of 1 thread leading to another thread leading to another thread leading to...

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    You might be surprised how often that actually happens.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
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                      So I am recommending the Synology 214 to my friend/client.

                      What would you recommend for backups of this? Buy a second and mirror it?

                      I know some of you use this, so what do you do?

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @BRRABill said:

                        1. Does anyone use encryption on this? I could see this being a nice fit for smaller shops (accountant, law firm, doctor) who need encryption. I know there is a performance drain, but I'm imagining on a Word file it's not a big issue. A huge video file might be another animal.

                        No. That's pretty worthless in a small, non-technical environment. How and where would they use this encryption that it would be both useful and protect anything? What do you want to encrypt against?

                        If it is doable, why WOULDN'T you want encryption?

                        Say it is a a legal office, accounting office, doctor, whatever. There's a good chance there is data on there you wouldn't want accessed if it got stolen.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said:

                          So I am recommending the Synology 214 to my friend/client.

                          What would you recommend for backups of this? Buy a second and mirror it?

                          I know some of you use this, so what do you do?

                          There are so many "it depends." First thing is... is it storage or backups going to the device?

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            There are so many "it depends." First thing is... is it storage or backups going to the device?

                            Storage. I convinced them to stop saving to their desktops, and buy the Synology and store everything to that.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill said:

                              If it is doable, why WOULDN'T you want encryption?

                              How could it be DOABLE, though?

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                How could it be DOABLE, though?

                                The device supports it?

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                  So if it's storage, you don't want to backup to another unit sitting right next to it.

                                  Offsite is likely the best option. Maybe a few external drives that get rotated weekly?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    There are so many "it depends." First thing is... is it storage or backups going to the device?

                                    Storage. I convinced them to stop saving to their desktops, and buy the Synology and store everything to that.

                                    Okay, then mirroring is not ideal. You want an actual backup. Something that grabs the share and backs it up or runs as an app and does backups is best.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      So if it's storage, you don't want to backup to another unit sitting right next to it.

                                      Offsite is likely the best option. Maybe a few external drives that get rotated weekly?

                                      At least not ONLY to a device sitting right next to it. That plus something else is fine.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill
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                                        I think this device can mirror itself to an offsite device of the same type, right?

                                        That's what I was thinking of.

                                        They also support cloud backup of the device.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          How could it be DOABLE, though?

                                          The device supports it?

                                          Everything "supports" it but no one uses it because it's not useful. Picture the scenario....

                                          If the NAS itself is encrypted, how will people access it? Will they need to log into the NAS every time it reboots and unencrypt everything before they use it? What doctor or law office could handle that task?

                                          The problem with encryption is that it is so immensely impractical to use that it is useless. Generally speaking.

                                          How do you make it so that they have to unencrypt things while still making it encrypt enough to protect against something real?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                            @BRRABill said:

                                            I think this device can mirror itself to an offsite device of the same type, right?

                                            Mirroring is replication, not backup. A deletion or corruption gets copied.

                                            It is only a backup if it is decoupled.

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