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      LAH3385
      last edited by LAH3385

      Hi all,
      It's me again. Haha. As a lone wolf I can't help but to seek helps quite frequently.

      I need how-to install Hyper V 2012 on SD card.

      I have followed Deploying Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 on USB Flash Drive But failed at step 2 where imageX is mentioned. I think I can handle the rest just need to understand how to complete step 2.

      I tried installing via DVD and what-not but it keep giving me this error message "Windows cannot be installed to this disk. Setup does not support configuration of or installation to disks connected through a USB or IEEE 1394 port"

      I found a post on SW that it didn't really help much.

      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/389537-installing-server-2012-on-an-sd-card

      Help please

      If there is another method to do this please let me know.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        The R430 should be able to present one or more ports as a SATA device rather than as a USB device so that HyperV doesn't know that it is installing in an odd way.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          The R430 should be able to present one or more ports as a SATA device rather than as a USB device so that HyperV doesn't know that it is installing in an odd way.

          This is the only way to do it "properly." You have to make the BIOS lie to Windows. This is the only part of Hyper-V that I have tried to use, that I do not like.

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            LAH3385
            last edited by LAH3385

            I posted the same question on Spiceworks and got some responds. Overall, no one seem to be able to say that Hyper V server can be install on SD card.
            I also have 32GB USB 3.0 laying around which I can use, but I still preferably to use SD card for its redundancy.
            I do not understand step 2 on Microsoft's guide. imageX.

            @JaredBusch said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            The R430 should be able to present one or more ports as a SATA device rather than as a USB device so that HyperV doesn't know that it is installing in an odd way.

            This is the only way to do it "properly." You have to make the BIOS lie to Windows. This is the only part of Hyper-V that I have tried to use, that I do not like.

            How do I do that? can you be more specific as to lie part.

            UPDATE:
            I found this link http://www.altaro.com/hyper-v/installing-and-running-hyper-v-from-a-usb-stick/ (someone posted it in my earlier thread) which explain microsoft guide in a more GUI-ie. I still do not know how to get imageX. All the link pointed to WAIK. ??
            I somehow feel like this is such a small matter but I am too deep in the ground to see daylight.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @LAH3385
              last edited by

              @LAH3385 said:

              I posted the same question on Spiceworks and got some responds. Overall, no one seem to be able to say that Hyper V server can be install on SD card.

              It can and is all of the time. Even Microsoft recommends this (from several of their reps in SW) and several server vendors ship it this way. MS has documentation on it because it can be done.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Have you looked in the R430 BIOS to see if there is a setting to change one or more of the SD or USB slots to act as a drive like we mentioned above? This is what servers I have used do.

                Are you using the SD slot that Dell specifically provides for this purpose?

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                  LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller
                  I have looked as the SD card configuration under Integrated Devices. The only options are
                  On/Off
                  Mirror from SD1 or SD2
                  There is one more but I couldn't think of it on top of my head.

                  Yes. I am using the dual slot SD card from Dell. The SD card is Samsung Evo 32GB UHS-I

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    Pinging the Dell server experts, they might know this one quickly and easily...

                    @xByteSean @ryan-from-xbyte @Lyndsie_xByte

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                      LAH3385
                      last edited by

                      Just looked at the BIOS setting. I did not see anywhere that indicate SD card as SATA. 😞

                      Is this common issue or just on R430?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @LAH3385
                        last edited by

                        @LAH3385 said:

                        Is this common issue or just on R430?

                        It's a standard Windows issue. Has nothing to do with the R430. Any other OS will install just fine as is.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          I saw it suggested to attempt disabling USB 3. Could be an issue, I suppose. Worth testing.

                          Also, try a USB stick instead of SD card for that hardware.

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                            LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            I saw it suggested to attempt disabling USB 3. Could be an issue, I suppose. Worth testing.

                            Also, try a USB stick instead of SD card for that hardware.

                            USB 3.0 is disabled by default. Never turn it on.

                            I tried USB drive but it didn't detected during Windows installation stage. Will try again.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Try a different USB port. Internal is most likely to work. Trying to ping the xByte crew.

                              Worst case scenario with HyperV, you just install to the main OBR array and not to SD/USB. Not ideal, but not bad either.

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                                LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Try a different USB port. Internal is most likely to work. Trying to ping the xByte crew.

                                Worst case scenario with HyperV, you just install to the main OBR array and not to SD/USB. Not ideal, but not bad either.

                                Tried all USB port and none detected. 😞
                                Right now I created another partition on the main ARRAY for HyperV server. I'm doing this just to gets something going. Still wants it on SD CARD xD

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by JaredBusch

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @LAH3385 said:

                                  I posted the same question on Spiceworks and got some responds. Overall, no one seem to be able to say that Hyper V server can be install on SD card.

                                  It can and is all of the time. Even Microsoft recommends this (from several of their reps in SW) and several server vendors ship it this way. MS has documentation on it because it can be done.

                                  We argued this last year Scott. Microsoft still does not officially support this. It is not officially recommended by Microsoft. Microsoft GG employees can say whatever they want, but that does not make it official from, or even actually recommended by, Microsoft.

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                                  • todd-at-xByteT
                                    todd-at-xByte
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                                    I'm having trouble finding official Dell documentation, but it's my understanding that the SD card reader option is only supported for ESXi. I would strongly recommend for a production server that you stick with the traditional method of creating a small partition on the RAID volume.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @todd-at-xByte
                                      last edited by

                                      @todd-at-xByte said:

                                      I'm having trouble finding official Dell documentation, but it's my understanding that the SD card reader option is only supported for ESXi. I would strongly recommend for a production server that you stick with the traditional method of creating a small partition on the RAID volume.

                                      I've seen that said a bit.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @LAH3385 said:

                                        I posted the same question on Spiceworks and got some responds. Overall, no one seem to be able to say that Hyper V server can be install on SD card.

                                        It can and is all of the time. Even Microsoft recommends this (from several of their reps in SW) and several server vendors ship it this way. MS has documentation on it because it can be done.

                                        We argued this last year Scott. Microsoft still does not officially support this. It is not officially recommended by Microsoft. Microsoft GG employees can say whatever they want, but that does not make it official from, or even actually recommended by, Microsoft.

                                        I stated exactly what you said in my post to make sure you could not say that I said that it was official but pointed out that it was Microsoft's official reps, not Microsoft officially - although we can argue that when Microsoft has official representation, that's official representation. But I did not claim that here in any form.

                                        But the GGs are Microsoft employees and are the chosen reps of the company speaking on behalf of the company. They are as official as any other resource. Unlike random bloggers or whatever, they are hired with the specific intent of being MS' representatives and speaking on behalf of the company.

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                                        • iroalI
                                          iroal
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                                          Same problem with the Dell R630...

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                                            LAH3385 @iroal
                                            last edited by

                                            @iroal said:

                                            Same problem with the Dell R630...

                                            After fighting it for a week, I gave up. Right now OS is on the same RAID. hoping Server NANO will have an answer for this.

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