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    What am I missing here (Exchange 2010 on server 2012r2)

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said:

      Strictly form the Exchange side, here are the comparative costs.

      Exchange Online Plan 1: 200 * $4 = $800/month * 12 months = $9,600/year.

      Exchange 2013 Standard = $655
      Exchange 2013 User CAL = $72 * 200 = $14,400

      You also have to consider The costs for Office and such. but this is just the Exchange numbers.

      And only the licensing cost. Doesn't include the Windows licensing, hardware costs, storage costs, backup software cost, backup hardware cost, Exchange admin cost, and so forth.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @wirestyle22 said:

        Isn't it more LAN-like than a cloud service? I suppose we could move our exchange server to a data-center and get more guaranteed connections and better power managemenet options/disaster recovery plans, but isn't that one of the benefits of the cloud or am I way off base here?

        Well that's an advantage of hosted. Critical services should generally already be in a datacenter, in most cases.

        But it's not LAN-like. Even on on premises Exchange server behaves as if it was its own thing.

        I understand. Thank you!

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        • wrx7mW
          wrx7m @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender I am planning on migrating to office365 or another hosted exchange service from Exchange 2010 too.

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            Sparkum @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch

            For sure but after 5 years...

            $50k vs 14k also considering we already have the office licenses, (not 2013 mind you but most of our users are so light on office it doesn't matter)

            Trust me, I 100% understand both sides of this, but I'm not the decision maker or the invoice signer.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Sparkum
              last edited by

              @Sparkum said:

              @JaredBusch

              For sure but after 5 years...

              The you have to pay for the new licenses, migrate to the new system.... that's when the really big savings of the hosted solution come in.

              Plus, don't forget, you need filtering, AV and that stuff and that's always hosted and often $1-$2 per user per month cutting the cost of O365 in half.

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                Sparkum @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller

                For sure, the largest kicker is we would NEVER switch all of our users, (we are a retail establishment with hundreds and hundreds of generic email addresses)
                We currently have a Barracuda Spam and Firewall so no matter what, that would stay on site and licensed.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Sparkum
                  last edited by

                  @Sparkum said:

                  We currently have a Barracuda Spam and Firewall so no matter what, that would stay on site and licensed.

                  Why would those stay? Wouldn't eliminating those be a top priority?

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                  • wrx7mW
                    wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller As someone that will be migrating soon, are you saying that the av/spam filtering is included in o365 or you have a 3rd party providing services for these?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                      last edited by

                      @wrx7m said:

                      @scottalanmiller As someone that will be migrating soon, are you saying that the av/spam filtering is included in o365 or you have a 3rd party providing services for these?

                      It's included, it is the largest percentage of the value of the service. It's what makes it impossible to consider an on premises system based on cost. No way to compete.

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                      • wrx7mW
                        wrx7m @Sparkum
                        last edited by

                        @Sparkum said:

                        @scottalanmiller

                        For sure, the largest kicker is we would NEVER switch all of our users, (we are a retail establishment with hundreds and hundreds of generic email addresses)
                        We currently have a Barracuda Spam and Firewall so no matter what, that would stay on site and licensed.

                        For those generic e-mail addresses, how are you using them? Are they proxy addresses, distribution groups or actual mailboxes?

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                        • wrx7mW
                          wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller Cool. What about backups?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Sparkum
                            last edited by

                            @Sparkum said:

                            For sure, the largest kicker is we would NEVER switch all of our users, (we are a retail establishment with hundreds and hundreds of generic email addresses)

                            No way to make them aliases?

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                              Sparkum @wrx7m
                              last edited by

                              @wrx7m

                              Actual email addresses.

                              Stuff like kiosk01@ cashier01@ installer01@ etc etc etc

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                                last edited by

                                @wrx7m said:

                                @scottalanmiller Cool. What about backups?

                                O365 is inclusive. It's $4, done. That's it. No other costs. Every, single thing is included.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Sparkum
                                  last edited by

                                  @Sparkum said:

                                  @wrx7m

                                  Actual email addresses.

                                  Stuff like kiosk01@ cashier01@ installer01@ etc etc etc

                                  Do they go to specific people?

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                                    Sparkum @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller

                                    Nope, and its lets say roughly, 20 email addresses per retail location, so currently times something like 36? and growing every year.

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                                    • wrx7mW
                                      wrx7m @Sparkum
                                      last edited by

                                      @Sparkum Right but are they all a 1:1 for a mailbox?

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                                        Sparkum @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller

                                        They go to positions.
                                        So if that person gets fired/quits there's no change on our end.
                                        Just retail so turn over is high.

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                                        • wrx7mW
                                          wrx7m
                                          last edited by

                                          You don't get charged per email address, you get charged per mailbox.user, right?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Sparkum
                                            last edited by

                                            @Sparkum said:

                                            @scottalanmiller

                                            Nope, and its lets say roughly, 20 email addresses per retail location, so currently times something like 36? and growing every year.

                                            Where do they go?

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