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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @david.wiese
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      @david.wiese said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @aaronstuder said:

      Do you run CAT 6 End to End? or Do you use 5e sometimes?

      Pretty much just CAT5e. Cheaper, easier to run.

      how is it easier to run? It all depends on if you get solid to stranded wire.

      termination

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @david.wiese
        last edited by

        @david.wiese said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @aaronstuder said:

        Do you run CAT 6 End to End? or Do you use 5e sometimes?

        Pretty much just CAT5e. Cheaper, easier to run.

        how is it easier to run? It all depends on if you get solid to stranded wire.

        Even all stranded, CAT6 is quite a bit more effort.

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        • david.wieseD
          david.wiese @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @david.wiese said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @aaronstuder said:

          Do you run CAT 6 End to End? or Do you use 5e sometimes?

          Pretty much just CAT5e. Cheaper, easier to run.

          how is it easier to run? It all depends on if you get solid to stranded wire.

          Even all stranded, CAT6 is quite a bit more effort.

          I've pulled 5e and 6 in through the rafters in my shop and to me there is no discernable difference between the 2. Even when punching down/terminating the cables.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            Yeah I've only seen CAT6 run (had it run) because my installer had a bunch of it and was selling it for less than retail.

            Had 15 drops put in for the same cost as CAT5e

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @david.wiese
              last edited by

              @david.wiese said:

              I've pulled 5e and 6 in through the rafters in my shop and to me there is no discernable difference between the 2. Even when punching down/terminating the cables.

              Can't explain how you see them as the same, the termination components that I've seen are quite different, so much so that one is very easy and one is rather difficult.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @david.wiese
                last edited by

                @david.wiese said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @david.wiese said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @aaronstuder said:

                Do you run CAT 6 End to End? or Do you use 5e sometimes?

                Pretty much just CAT5e. Cheaper, easier to run.

                how is it easier to run? It all depends on if you get solid to stranded wire.

                Even all stranded, CAT6 is quite a bit more effort.

                I've pulled 5e and 6 in through the rafters in my shop and to me there is no discernable difference between the 2. Even when punching down/terminating the cables.

                Did you use CAT certified panels and RJ45's?

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                • NattNattN
                  NattNatt
                  last edited by

                  Company now uses all Cat6 - but I miss Cat 5e, was easier to run and terminate, easier to bend etc too...

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                  • david.wieseD
                    david.wiese @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @david.wiese said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @david.wiese said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @aaronstuder said:

                    Do you run CAT 6 End to End? or Do you use 5e sometimes?

                    Pretty much just CAT5e. Cheaper, easier to run.

                    how is it easier to run? It all depends on if you get solid to stranded wire.

                    Even all stranded, CAT6 is quite a bit more effort.

                    I've pulled 5e and 6 in through the rafters in my shop and to me there is no discernable difference between the 2. Even when punching down/terminating the cables.

                    Did you use CAT certified panels and RJ45's?

                    we use keystones and punchdown blocks. I typically don't terminate with rj45s

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                    • brianlittlejohnB
                      brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @david.wiese said:

                      I've pulled 5e and 6 in through the rafters in my shop and to me there is no discernable difference between the 2. Even when punching down/terminating the cables.

                      Can't explain how you see them as the same, the termination components that I've seen are quite different, so much so that one is very easy and one is rather difficult.

                      The termination is a bit different, not much though. After a little practice I can terminate a cat6 just as fast as cat5e with RJ45 plugs. As far as punchdown and keystone jacks they are the same.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @wirestyle22 said:

                        @aaronstuder said:

                        Do you run CAT 6 End to End? or Do you use 5e sometimes?

                        The exception would be if you're doing a lot of video streaming, etc.

                        internally. If you're streaming from the internet, unless you're streaming at greater than 1 Gb, it would still be pointless

                        Correct sir!

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                        • NattNattN
                          NattNatt @brianlittlejohn
                          last edited by

                          @brianlittlejohn said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @david.wiese said:

                          I've pulled 5e and 6 in through the rafters in my shop and to me there is no discernable difference between the 2. Even when punching down/terminating the cables.

                          Can't explain how you see them as the same, the termination components that I've seen are quite different, so much so that one is very easy and one is rather difficult.

                          The termination is a bit different, not much though. After a little practice I can terminate a cat6 just as fast as cat5e with RJ45 plugs. As far as punchdown and keystone jacks they are the same.

                          Still slower for me, due to the fiddly plastic core that needs cutting out...

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @NattNatt
                            last edited by

                            @NattNatt said:

                            Company now uses all Cat6 - but I miss Cat 5e, was easier to run and terminate, easier to bend etc too...

                            You won't miss 5e in a couple years when 10gig switching is dirt cheap

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                              last edited by wirestyle22

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @NattNatt said:

                              Company now uses all Cat6 - but I miss Cat 5e, was easier to run and terminate, easier to bend etc too...

                              You won't miss 5e in a couple years when 10gig switching is dirt cheap

                              I'm pretty sure this is what they promised a few years before Mad Max became actual human history but what do I know. My network is held together by bubblegum and soothing words

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                                last edited by

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                @NattNatt said:

                                Company now uses all Cat6 - but I miss Cat 5e, was easier to run and terminate, easier to bend etc too...

                                You won't miss 5e in a couple years when 10gig switching is dirt cheap

                                That will be a few years yet, and I don't see adoption being that rapid. Few people have a means of using that even today.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by

                                  @wirestyle22 said:

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  @NattNatt said:

                                  Company now uses all Cat6 - but I miss Cat 5e, was easier to run and terminate, easier to bend etc too...

                                  You won't miss 5e in a couple years when 10gig switching is dirt cheap

                                  I'm pretty sure this is what they promised a few years before Mad Max became actual human history but what do I k now. My network is held together by bubblegum and soothing words

                                  Blood, sweat and bailing wire here - can relate.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                                    last edited by

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @NattNatt said:

                                    Company now uses all Cat6 - but I miss Cat 5e, was easier to run and terminate, easier to bend etc too...

                                    You won't miss 5e in a couple years when 10gig switching is dirt cheap

                                    I'm pretty sure this is what they promised a few years before Mad Max became actual human history but what do I k now. My network is held together by bubblegum and soothing words

                                    Blood, sweat and bailing wire here - can relate.

                                    Me as a sysadmin

                                    0_1457376547495_mad1.jpg

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                                    • MattSpellerM
                                      MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @NattNatt said:

                                      Company now uses all Cat6 - but I miss Cat 5e, was easier to run and terminate, easier to bend etc too...

                                      You won't miss 5e in a couple years when 10gig switching is dirt cheap

                                      That will be a few years yet, and I don't see adoption being that rapid. Few people have a means of using that even today.

                                      With the prevalence of cloud computing it may just never see the demand that gig got. I think that'll be the primary hiccup in it's adoption. That and quality WIFI anyway.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @MattSpeller
                                        last edited by

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @NattNatt said:

                                        Company now uses all Cat6 - but I miss Cat 5e, was easier to run and terminate, easier to bend etc too...

                                        You won't miss 5e in a couple years when 10gig switching is dirt cheap

                                        That will be a few years yet, and I don't see adoption being that rapid. Few people have a means of using that even today.

                                        With the prevalence of cloud computing it may just never see the demand that gig got. I think that'll be the primary hiccup in it's adoption. That and quality WIFI anyway.

                                        In the datacenter I definitely see 10 GbE taking over... but at the end point - no way except for rare specialty conditions - like the video processing station.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          And here five years ago Cisco said that if we didn't have 14Tb/s to the desktop that YouTube would be dead.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            And here five years ago Cisco said that if we didn't have 14Tb/s to the desktop that YouTube would be dead.

                                            LOL - did you say 14 TB to the desktop?

                                            What did they expect the internet to be Pb connection to the internet?

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