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    • coliverC
      coliver @Minion Queen
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      @Minion-Queen said:

      Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

      Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Minion-Queen said:

        Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

        Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

        I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

        You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          I've struggled to even have Android devices that can make calls, texts and get emails so....

          That's strange. Never had an issue with that on mid-range to top-range devices. My recent Moto E, which is a budget/low-end phone, sometimes has issues calling.

          Everyone at the time said this too. I heard it so many times it's crazy. Yet I'd ask those people to produce a working device and never once could one of them get me a device that actually worked reliably. It turned out, every time, that they were not using some core functionality or were using it but didn't realize that emails weren't working or the like. What I found was that no Android users were actually relying on their devices and were treating them like entertainment, not business, devices and had a much different standard of "working" than iOS users had where reliable calls and emails were a standard requirement.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said:

            @Minion-Queen said:

            Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

            Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.

            I had a Samsung Charge. First LTE Android device and first official Android device for Verizon. It ran on FroYo and it was pretty much junk. I had to have it plugged in all the time and it would restart frequently. The difference between 6.0 and 2.0 is ridiculous.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Minion-Queen said:

              Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

              Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

              I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

              You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

              Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said:

                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Minion-Queen said:

                Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said:

                  @Minion-Queen said:

                  Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                  Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.

                  No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Minion-Queen said:

                    Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                    Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                    I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                    You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                    Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                    Same here, audio and video don't work on the Fire products. Like they almost never work.

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                    • brianlittlejohnB
                      brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      re's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

                      hmmm... i've never had any issues with my Appletvs 😉

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                      • Minion QueenM
                        Minion Queen @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Minion-Queen said:

                        Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                        Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                        I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                        You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                        Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                        I really like my Fire Stick haven't had any issues with it at all.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                          @johnhooks said:

                          The difference between 6.0 and 2.0 is ridiculous.

                          The problem is, Android users always make claims like "oh, back then it didn't work..." which is exactly what next year they will say about this year. Everything with Android is an excuse. There is always a reason why "your" Android didn't work. Bottom line remains, it doesn't work. It's an excuse generation platform. Everyone has that "one magic vendor, one magic device with one magic app" that kinda works "for them" and they defend the platform as being awesome because that one use case works... sometimes.

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                          • Minion QueenM
                            Minion Queen @brianlittlejohn
                            last edited by

                            @brianlittlejohn said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            re's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

                            hmmm... i've never had any issues with my Appletvs 😉

                            Me either I only use the Fire Stick when I can't get something on the apple tv and don't want to deal with Airplay.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @stacksofplates
                              last edited by

                              @johnhooks said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Minion-Queen said:

                              Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                              Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                              I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                              You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                              Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                              I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.

                              We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
                                last edited by

                                @Minion-Queen said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Minion-Queen said:

                                Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                                Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                                I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                                You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                                Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                                I really like my Fire Stick haven't had any issues with it at all.

                                We like the idea but are giving the Fire TV to dad as it is essentially useless to us. Nothing works on it. Half the time it just crashes. We have to yank the power on it every other activity that we do.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
                                  last edited by

                                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                                  hmmm... i've never had any issues with my Appletvs 😉

                                  Yup, we've always love the AppleTV. The one problem is that they won't play Amazon videos or we would be getting yet another AppleTV with which to travel. They work great. But they just lack the functionality we need.

                                  So testing out the NVidia Shield this summer.

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                                  • Minion QueenM
                                    Minion Queen @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Minion-Queen said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Minion-Queen said:

                                    Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                                    Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                                    I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                                    You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                                    Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                                    I really like my Fire Stick haven't had any issues with it at all.

                                    We like the idea but are giving the Fire TV to dad as it is essentially useless to us. Nothing works on it. Half the time it just crashes. We have to yank the power on it every other activity that we do.

                                    Huh I really don't have any issues with mine at all. Other than I like the apple tv interface so much better.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @coliver said:

                                      @Minion-Queen said:

                                      Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                                      Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.

                                      No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

                                      I think a big problem that early Android had was a lack of a real mail app. The only sync option was either polling every so many minutes or IMAP Idle. There was no real push mail system for a long time.

                                      There was some third party email for EAS but it was like $30.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @stacksofplates
                                        last edited by

                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @Minion-Queen said:

                                        Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                                        Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.

                                        No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

                                        I think a big problem that early Android had was a lack of a real mail app. The only sync option was either polling every so many minutes or IMAP Idle. There was no real push mail system for a long time.

                                        There was some third party email for EAS but it was like $30.

                                        Ughh Touchdown. I remember that. It was awful.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @johnhooks said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Minion-Queen said:

                                          Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                                          Not according to the Android users at the time that claimed it was rock solid and never had issues but could never produce a working example of it for me. They made the same claims that people do today.

                                          I have six Android devices right now, totally unstable, all up to date.

                                          You're talking about your cheap $50 Amazon Fires?

                                          Uggh, I bought a Fire Stick... I can't get the audio and video to sync. I've got to return it and get Roku or something else.

                                          I love my Roku. I have 2 Chromecasts also. I was thinking about maybe a Nexus Player but I need to research some more.

                                          We have two Chromecasts but my wife doesn't like having to get her iPad to watch shows. I also have a Roku stick and while it works the interface is sluggish and I need to hard reset it a few times a week.

                                          The Roku stick is slow. We have a Roku 2 and it's still chugging a long. The new Roku 4 looks nice, but not sure if it's worth $120.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @Minion-Queen said:

                                            Scott also used an Android back when it wasn't stable.

                                            Ah, that makes sense. My first smart phone was a Droid X. It had issues with email syncing and random restarts until I put an ASOP rom on it. So I can see where you may get the impression.

                                            No, it doesn't make sense. There's no excuse for the problems that I had. More than thirty five devices and every Android user claimed something different. I had the wrong vendor, wrong version, didn't install the right third party app, etc., etc. ad nauseum. Bottom line Android didn't work and the reaction of the Android defenders has not changed one iota from then till now.

                                            I think a big problem that early Android had was a lack of a real mail app. The only sync option was either polling every so many minutes or IMAP Idle. There was no real push mail system for a long time.

                                            There was some third party email for EAS but it was like $30.

                                            Ughh Touchdown. I remember that. It was awful.

                                            That's it!!

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