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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse
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      @JaredBusch @scottalanmiller

      It occurred to me this morning - could you combine the ERL and the UBNT WiFi controller together? Is there enough system space on the ERL to host/run the controller?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        I don't believe that the controller is available as a VyOS package compiled for MIPS. I've never looks, but that would be extremely surprising.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

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            Jason Banned
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            They don't. and Having extra stuff on your edge device is not a good idea. more attack surface.

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

              Mainly a curious thought. Like any one with the ERL and the UniFI controller, I use two IPs to manage my network. It was a wondering if you could combine and use the single IP and the right port.

              For myself since I only have / need one site to manage that all was in one place. for a multi site company it doesn't really make sense. But for me, then the ERL has the WiFI db and all that is needed is any browswer.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                @gjacobse said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                Mainly a curious thought. Like any one with the ERL and the UniFI controller, I use two IPs to manage my network. It was a wondering if you could combine and use the single IP and the right port.

                For myself since I only have / need one site to manage that all was in one place. for a multi site company it doesn't really make sense. But for me, then the ERL has the WiFI db and all that is needed is any browswer.

                How often are you needing to manage your Unifi from outside of the network? What's the benefit to having fewer IPs?

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
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                  They make a product for that. The USG

                  https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @gjacobse said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                    Mainly a curious thought. Like any one with the ERL and the UniFI controller, I use two IPs to manage my network. It was a wondering if you could combine and use the single IP and the right port.

                    For myself since I only have / need one site to manage that all was in one place. for a multi site company it doesn't really make sense. But for me, then the ERL has the WiFI db and all that is needed is any browswer.

                    How often are you needing to manage your Unifi from outside of the network? What's the benefit to having fewer IPs?

                    He was not saying from outside the network for himself. just that he has to use 2 IP addresses locally to manage everything.

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                    • gjacobseG
                      gjacobse @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said:

                      They make a product for that. The USG

                      https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                      Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                      I'm good with leaving what I have running.

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                        Jason Banned @gjacobse
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                        @gjacobse said:

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        They make a product for that. The USG

                        https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                        Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                        I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                        Likely not MIPS based though.

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                        • gjacobseG
                          gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @gjacobse said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                          Mainly a curious thought. Like any one with the ERL and the UniFI controller, I use two IPs to manage my network. It was a wondering if you could combine and use the single IP and the right port.

                          For myself since I only have / need one site to manage that all was in one place. for a multi site company it doesn't really make sense. But for me, then the ERL has the WiFI db and all that is needed is any browswer.

                          How often are you needing to manage your Unifi from outside of the network? What's the benefit to having fewer IPs?

                          Not so much for management as monitoring.. what devices are connected, did either of the APs drop out, who's dogging the network..

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @gjacobse said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                            Mainly a curious thought. Like any one with the ERL and the UniFI controller, I use two IPs to manage my network. It was a wondering if you could combine and use the single IP and the right port.

                            For myself since I only have / need one site to manage that all was in one place. for a multi site company it doesn't really make sense. But for me, then the ERL has the WiFI db and all that is needed is any browswer.

                            How often are you needing to manage your Unifi from outside of the network? What's the benefit to having fewer IPs?

                            He was not saying from outside the network for himself. just that he has to use 2 IP addresses locally to manage everything.

                            Oh, that seems odd as two IPs or two URLs is the same amount of effort. Not sure how it would lower the effort.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                              @gjacobse said:

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              They make a product for that. The USG

                              https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                              Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                              I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                              There is a product that allows them to be managed as one. The key difference is that the USG uses the Unifi interface, the ERL does not.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                                @gjacobse said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @gjacobse said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                                Mainly a curious thought. Like any one with the ERL and the UniFI controller, I use two IPs to manage my network. It was a wondering if you could combine and use the single IP and the right port.

                                For myself since I only have / need one site to manage that all was in one place. for a multi site company it doesn't really make sense. But for me, then the ERL has the WiFI db and all that is needed is any browswer.

                                How often are you needing to manage your Unifi from outside of the network? What's the benefit to having fewer IPs?

                                Not so much for management as monitoring.. what devices are connected, did either of the APs drop out, who's dogging the network..

                                how would it aid in monitoring? Wouldn't it make it slightly harder?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                  @Jason said:

                                  @gjacobse said:

                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  They make a product for that. The USG

                                  https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                                  Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                                  I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                                  Likely not MIPS based though.

                                  My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

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                                    Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Jason said:

                                    @gjacobse said:

                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    They make a product for that. The USG

                                    https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                                    Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                                    I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                                    Likely not MIPS based though.

                                    My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

                                    Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Jason
                                      last edited by

                                      @Jason said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Jason said:

                                      @gjacobse said:

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      They make a product for that. The USG

                                      https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                                      Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                                      I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                                      Likely not MIPS based though.

                                      My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

                                      Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

                                      Not sure if it has the same amount of memory, but I would guess that it does. Seems pretty likely that you could do it, it's all GPL.

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                                        Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Jason said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Jason said:

                                        @gjacobse said:

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        They make a product for that. The USG

                                        https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                                        Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                                        I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                                        Likely not MIPS based though.

                                        My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

                                        Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

                                        Not sure if it has the same amount of memory.

                                        Nope. 512MB for ERL, 2GB for the USG.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                          @Jason said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Jason said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Jason said:

                                          @gjacobse said:

                                          @JaredBusch said:

                                          They make a product for that. The USG

                                          https://www.ubnt.com/unifi-switching-routing/usg/

                                          Okay - so it's NOT so far fetched.. Since there is a product.

                                          I'm good with leaving what I have running.

                                          Likely not MIPS based though.

                                          My guess is that it is, otherwise they would have to maintain more hardware.

                                          Yeah apperenlty it has the exact same MIPS processor as the ERL. Now I'm surpised someone hasn't pulled the unifi packages off of it and moved it to the ERL then.

                                          Not sure if it has the same amount of memory.

                                          Nope. 512MB for ERL, 2GB for the USG.

                                          That makes sense. The Unifi system uses a ton more overhead.

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                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            The code is GPL'd, so in theory you could compile it for MIPS if you wanted. But you would never want that controller running on your firewall. What's the end goal?

                                            One end goal would be for home use. Most home users use a router/AP all in one device. It would be nice to have the same for them, but with the AP external.

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