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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @adam.ierymenko
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      @adam.ierymenko said:

      @scottalanmiller You could also bridge it to a physical network if you have old boxes, printers, fax machines, etc. A Raspberry Pi makes a great bridge for $30.

      Where is this bridge everyone keeps talking about? 😃

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @FATeknollogee
        last edited by

        @FATeknollogee said:

        @adam.ierymenko said:

        @scottalanmiller You could also bridge it to a physical network if you have old boxes, printers, fax machines, etc. A Raspberry Pi makes a great bridge for $30.

        Where is this bridge everyone keeps talking about? 😃

        It's just software. install it on whatever you want to install it on.

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender You have a "how to" instruction set?

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          • wrx7mW
            wrx7m
            last edited by wrx7m

            Would you say that the biggest difference between ZT and Pertino in terms of logistics is that Pertino routes traffic across its network, whereas ZT just performs the initial connection and the "clients" then communicate with each other until a loss of connectivity occurs?

            Pertino does have smartzones that allows you to tell it when it should just route traffic locally/across the non pertino interface but I don't think it would be encrypted.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @FATeknollogee
              last edited by Dashrender

              @FATeknollogee
              I don't, but I think @BRRABill was working on it.

              https://www.zerotier.com/community/topic/5/bridging-ethernet-to-zerotier-virtual-networks-on-linux

              This thread talks about it.

              The gist is that you make a router out of a device that you can install ZT onto.

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              • wrx7mW
                wrx7m @FATeknollogee
                last edited by

                @FATeknollogee said:

                @Dashrender You have a "how to" instruction set?

                I think @dafyre created a script for it. I am pretty sure you can only install the bridge on a connector, which has to be a Linux box.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  I just had a thought.

                  This is just a wacky solution to the multi IP's for a single host problem that @dafyre was able to solve by telling a NIC to not register with DNS, but I couldn't get to work.

                  What if you install a bridge on the network, and make your default gateway aware of that network? then if your PC gets a ZT IP from DNS, it can still communicate, only it will be through the bridge.

                  It's ugly.. but provides a path.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @wrx7m
                    last edited by

                    @wrx7m said:

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    @Dashrender You have a "how to" instruction set?

                    I think @dafyre created a script for it. I am pretty sure you can only install the bridge on a connector, which has to be a Linux box.

                    Doh! you're right it was @dafyre

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      I just had a thought.

                      This is just a wacky solution to the multi IP's for a single host problem that @dafyre was able to solve by telling a NIC to not register with DNS, but I couldn't get to work.

                      What if you install a bridge on the network, and make your default gateway aware of that network? then if your PC gets a ZT IP from DNS, it can still communicate, only it will be through the bridge.

                      It's ugly.. but provides a path.

                      Why does the gateway need to be aware of it?

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                      • wrx7mW
                        wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by wrx7m

                        @scottalanmiller He might mean that the ZT clients would need to know which gateway to use if it is a different gateway on the same network.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          I just had a thought.

                          This is just a wacky solution to the multi IP's for a single host problem that @dafyre was able to solve by telling a NIC to not register with DNS, but I couldn't get to work.

                          What if you install a bridge on the network, and make your default gateway aware of that network? then if your PC gets a ZT IP from DNS, it can still communicate, only it will be through the bridge.

                          It's ugly.. but provides a path.

                          Why does the gateway need to be aware of it?

                          Well.. hmm.. OK I was going to say because that way it knows where to forward the packets to internal bridge/router...

                          But I just read the ZT forum post about the bridge, it's a bridge, not a router between two networks.. it's assumed (bridge) that all devices are on the same network, so there won't be any involvement of the default gateway.. so you can disregard my earlier comments.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            I just had a thought.

                            This is just a wacky solution to the multi IP's for a single host problem that @dafyre was able to solve by telling a NIC to not register with DNS, but I couldn't get to work.

                            What if you install a bridge on the network, and make your default gateway aware of that network? then if your PC gets a ZT IP from DNS, it can still communicate, only it will be through the bridge.

                            It's ugly.. but provides a path.

                            Why does the gateway need to be aware of it?

                            Well.. hmm.. OK I was going to say because that way it knows where to forward the packets to internal bridge/router...

                            But I just read the ZT forum post about the bridge, it's a bridge, not a router between two networks.. it's assumed (bridge) that all devices are on the same network, so there won't be any involvement of the default gateway.. so you can disregard my earlier comments.

                            That's what I was wondering about 🙂 A bridge is just like another switch port.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              I just had a thought.

                              This is just a wacky solution to the multi IP's for a single host problem that @dafyre was able to solve by telling a NIC to not register with DNS, but I couldn't get to work.

                              What if you install a bridge on the network, and make your default gateway aware of that network? then if your PC gets a ZT IP from DNS, it can still communicate, only it will be through the bridge.

                              It's ugly.. but provides a path.

                              Why does the gateway need to be aware of it?

                              Well.. hmm.. OK I was going to say because that way it knows where to forward the packets to internal bridge/router...

                              But I just read the ZT forum post about the bridge, it's a bridge, not a router between two networks.. it's assumed (bridge) that all devices are on the same network, so there won't be any involvement of the default gateway.. so you can disregard my earlier comments.

                              That's what I was wondering about 🙂 A bridge is just like another switch port.

                              And now I understand why in that ZT post that they wanted an open unused nic port to act like a switch port.. that's what ZT grabs onto to form the bridge...lol weird.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                I'm thankful that my installation would be simple and only require editing the hosts file to point at the right DNS server.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller you can not so respectfully piss off.

                                  I can tell you that your opinion of how ZT should work is your opinion and nothing more than that. The developer told you to post your information to that thread.

                                  My goal has nothing to do with making everything work for AD. That thread has nothing to do with my desire to make AD be the only piece that works.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @wrx7m said:

                                    @FATeknollogee said:

                                    @Dashrender You have a "how to" instruction set?

                                    I think @dafyre created a script for it. I am pretty sure you can only install the bridge on a connector, which has to be a Linux box.

                                    Doh! you're right it was @dafyre

                                    It wasn't a script... Esentially what I did was build a Linux router.

                                    I have been unable to get the Official Bridged mode to work for some reason or another... It sounds like that is more involved than what @JaredBusch wants to do though.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      @dafyre said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @wrx7m said:

                                      @FATeknollogee said:

                                      @Dashrender You have a "how to" instruction set?

                                      I think @dafyre created a script for it. I am pretty sure you can only install the bridge on a connector, which has to be a Linux box.

                                      Doh! you're right it was @dafyre

                                      It wasn't a script... Esentially what I did was build a Linux router.

                                      I have been unable to get the Official Bridged mode to work for some reason or another... It sounds like that is more involved than what @JaredBusch wants to do though.

                                      I'd agree - bridge mode is like a huge pain. Putting all devices into a /16 network? WOW - no thanks. Of course I realize you could just as easily do with with a /23 or /22.

                                      I'm curious though.. what happens when two NICs have IPs in the same range? This would be the case when a laptop is in the office.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        I'm curious though.. what happens when two NICs have IPs in the same range? This would be the case when a laptop is in the office.

                                        Why would that happen with laptops?

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          I'm curious though.. what happens when two NICs have IPs in the same range? This would be the case when a laptop is in the office.

                                          Why would that happen with laptops?

                                          He means if they use the same IP range for both the LAN and the ZT network... what would happen if a laptop got 192.168.16.16 on the LAN, as well as 192.168.16.16 on the ZT network.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                            last edited by

                                            @dafyre said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            I'm curious though.. what happens when two NICs have IPs in the same range? This would be the case when a laptop is in the office.

                                            Why would that happen with laptops?

                                            He means if they use the same IP range for both the LAN and the ZT network... what would happen if a laptop got 192.168.16.16 on the LAN, as well as 192.168.16.16 on the ZT network.

                                            Oh, you can't do that. The devices would freak out. It's as simple as... you can't.

                                            But... when would this happen? Why would you choose a ZT network that overlaps with the LAN?

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