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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @coliver
      last edited by

      @coliver said:

      Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

      Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad

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      • coliverC
        coliver @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        @coliver said:

        Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

        Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad

        The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.

        I've never used the sync client everything I do is directly over webdav. I go to the web client occasionly but webdav makes it so much easier.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @coliver
          last edited by wirestyle22

          @coliver said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @coliver said:

          Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

          Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad

          The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.

          I've never used the sync client everything I do is directly over webdav. I go to the web client occasionly but webdav makes it so much easier.

          This seems like something I'd be interested in. Any good documentation I can read? Can you create logon scripts for domain accounts using webdav?

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          • coliverC
            coliver @wirestyle22
            last edited by

            @wirestyle22 said:

            @coliver said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @coliver said:

            Does the oC client do selective syncing? I haven't played with it in a long time.

            Boy, I would hope so, otherwise it becomes useless pretty quick. You have 1 TB of data in oC, and a 250 GB SSD local, now syncing isn't an option.. yeah... bad

            The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.

            I've never used the sync client everything I do is directly over webdav. I go to the web client occasionly but webdav makes it so much easier.

            This seems like something I'd be interested in. Any good documentation I can read? Can you create logon scripts for domain accounts using webdav?

            You should be able to. Webdav on Windows can be funky though.

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            • coliverC
              coliver
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              https://doc.owncloud.org/server/7.0/user_manual/files/files.html

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said:

                The option there is to not use the sync client at all. Only download things when you need them from either the web client of a webdav client, which is built directly into Windows.

                Yeah certain people here at ML would go nuts if you wanted to sync. 🙂

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  how does the sync client with with oC?

                  Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

                  If there are four folders in the root of S:
                  IT
                  Finance
                  Billing
                  Polices

                  Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

                  Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    how does the sync client with with oC?

                    Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

                    If there are four folders in the root of S:
                    IT
                    Finance
                    Billing
                    Polices

                    Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

                    Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.

                    Does this somehow solve the problem I presented?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @dafyre said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      how does the sync client with with oC?

                      Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

                      If there are four folders in the root of S:
                      IT
                      Finance
                      Billing
                      Polices

                      Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

                      Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.

                      Does this somehow solve the problem I presented?

                      No. Additionally, with the Sync client, you can uncheck any folder you do not want to sync locally. Only 1 account needed.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @dafyre said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        how does the sync client with with oC?

                        Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

                        If there are four folders in the root of S:
                        IT
                        Finance
                        Billing
                        Polices

                        Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

                        Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.

                        Does this somehow solve the problem I presented?

                        No. I must have misread what you posted yesterday. But for that instance, WebDav specifically would require no syncing. Although, I would suggest creating a "master" account that is the owner of the IT, Finance, Billing, & Policies folders... and then grant access / shared the folders to the appropriate people from the ownCloud web interface...

                        That way Sally Jane in Finance can't see any files in the IT folder, etc.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @dafyre
                          last edited by

                          @dafyre said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @dafyre said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          how does the sync client with with oC?

                          Let's assume I have a 20 GB S: (SMB) drive I want to move to ownCloud. To have my local Word/Excel use it like I use my S: drive, do I have to sync the whole 20 GB locally?

                          If there are four folders in the root of S:
                          IT
                          Finance
                          Billing
                          Polices

                          Let's say I normally work in IT, so I sync the IT folder, but now I want to edit something in the Finance folder, do I have to visit the oC website, download, edit, upload, delete the downloaded file? or does sync allow me to add the file on the fly?

                          Not any more. The new oC Client will allow you to set up multiple accounts and sync them to different folders on your computer.

                          Does this somehow solve the problem I presented?

                          No. I must have misread what you posted yesterday. But for that instance, WebDav specifically would require no syncing. Although, I would suggest creating a "master" account that is the owner of the IT, Finance, Billing, & Policies folders... and then grant access / shared the folders to the appropriate people from the ownCloud web interface...

                          That way Sally Jane in Finance can't see any files in the IT folder, etc.

                          This doesn't solve the presented problem either. But raises a question - are you saying you can give file level access permissions in oC? A single folder can't have a file or subfolder that is allowed for some but not others?

                          I actually wouldn't have a problem with that if you get rid of file structure altogether, go to pure permissions based access with Tag based searching, but that is a hard concept for us old dogs to handle. Does oC do that?

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.

                            Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.

                              Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?

                              You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.

                                Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?

                                That would, indeed, be awesome.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.

                                  Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?

                                  You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.

                                  How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.

                                    Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?

                                    You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.

                                    How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?

                                    You would have to mount it as a filesystem, I think. Or they might see it as a network share.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @coliver said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.

                                      Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?

                                      You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.

                                      How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?

                                      You would have to mount it as a filesystem, I think. Or they might see it as a network share.

                                      This

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Dashrender
                                        last edited by coliver

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.

                                        Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?

                                        You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.

                                        How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?

                                        Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server. Granted not as safe as say Sharepoint or some other method but with built in versioning you can restore from the ownCloud interface instead of a backup.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.

                                          Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?

                                          You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.

                                          How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?

                                          Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.

                                          That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            It's great that they have a browser based add-on for oC that allows online editing - but what some people need, and from the sounds of it the OP needs, is the ability to use local MS Office with all of it's features that are undoubtedly missing from the web editors, is a plug-in that allows MS Office apps to interact with oC like it does with SharePoint and OneDrive and ODfB - like it's just a file system extension. You pick an file from oC, it downloads into the local app, you do you edits, and when you save, it saves back to the oC - exactly how it works for them with network shares today.

                                            Anyone know if they are working on such an add-on?

                                            You can do all of this easily with Webdav without any additional add-ons.

                                            How do you make the MS Office apps aware of the interface?

                                            Mount it as a shared drive in Windows. Then anything you read/write from/to it will be written to the remote server.

                                            That defeats the LANless design. But I suppose it's an option. The desire to get away from things that can crawl over your network shares like cryptoware does is extremely high in this IT person's mind.

                                            Definitely true. Using sync though is an issue for things like Terminal Servers because it creates sync folders in every profile. Sometimes you don't have a choice 😞

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