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    Napkin design...let's go LAN'less

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @coliver
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      @coliver said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      ics many mechanisms in a VPN but is not a VPN. A VPN extends a LAN, a Jump Box proxies to it. Proxying with user

      As for the Jump boxes, Why make administration something that can be done from anywhere? Sure, those managed boxes might provide other services to the internet at large, like web service, but why open port 22 to the internet at large? Instead you can put all those port 22's behind the jump box allowing logon only from the jump box. Hopefully this provides better security.

      I thought that was kind of the point. Proxy the management through a jump box.

      Exactly.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @coliver said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        ics many mechanisms in a VPN but is not a VPN. A VPN extends a LAN, a Jump Box proxies to it. Proxying with user

        As for the Jump boxes, Why make administration something that can be done from anywhere? Sure, those managed boxes might provide other services to the internet at large, like web service, but why open port 22 to the internet at large? Instead you can put all those port 22's behind the jump box allowing logon only from the jump box. Hopefully this provides better security.

        I thought that was kind of the point. Proxy the management through a jump box.

        Exactly.

        Yup, that's where I was going with that. It has nothing to do with being LANless, and as Scott already said, everything to do with security.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1
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          LAN'less napkin design, something like this?

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @travisdh1
            last edited by

            @travisdh1 Who/what is in charge of "controlling" all those users & their access?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
              last edited by

              @FATeknollogee said:

              @travisdh1 Who/what is in charge of "controlling" all those users & their access?

              ownCloud.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @scottalanmiller
                last edited by dafyre

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @FATeknollogee said:

                @travisdh1 Who/what is in charge of "controlling" all those users & their access?

                ownCloud.

                Or the System Admin who manages that server.

                Edit: Ideally the oC Server would be integrated into some form of central authentication -- AD, AzureAD, or something.

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @FATeknollogee said:

                  @travisdh1 Who/what is in charge of "controlling" all those users & their access?

                  ownCloud.

                  I assumed the users will access more than oC even though the drawing doesn't show that?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    @travisdh1 Who/what is in charge of "controlling" all those users & their access?

                    ownCloud.

                    Or the System Admin who manages that server.

                    Edit: Ideally the oC Server would be integrated into some form of central authentication -- AD, AzureAD, or something.

                    Maybe not ideally. If that is the only service, use it as the authentication authority.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                      last edited by

                      @FATeknollogee said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @FATeknollogee said:

                      @travisdh1 Who/what is in charge of "controlling" all those users & their access?

                      ownCloud.

                      I assumed the users will access more than oC even though the drawing doesn't show that?

                      Ah, well that's different then.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @dafyre
                        last edited by

                        @dafyre said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @FATeknollogee said:

                        @travisdh1 Who/what is in charge of "controlling" all those users & their access?

                        ownCloud.

                        Or the System Admin who manages that server.

                        Edit: Ideally the oC Server would be integrated into some form of central authentication -- AD, AzureAD, or something.

                        Right. If you have more than a single server and/or service it'd be easier to manage with LDAP/AD/AzureAD.

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @FATeknollogee said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @FATeknollogee said:

                          @travisdh1 Who/what is in charge of "controlling" all those users & their access?

                          ownCloud.

                          I assumed the users will access more than oC even though the drawing doesn't show that?

                          Ah, well that's different then.

                          I should've just labeled the server as "Services" instead of "OwnCloud"

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