MS removed SharePoint from Business plans
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Does anyone know when MS removed SharePoint from Business plans?
We found out that several months ago that MS removed SharePoint from E1 plans, but now it's also missing from all Business level plans (companies smaller than 300 employees).
SharePoint, i.e. a shared location to store files, kinda like ownCloud, is no longer available except to E3 or higher plans. My desire to move to O365 have now be greatly diminished to the point that I don't know that if it's the right way to go.
Sure I can buy SharePoint for everyone for another $5-10/user/month. So what was $5 per user for most of my users, it's now at least $10, on the other hand, if they want full Office, that is cheaper, it's $17.50 (12.50 for both business essentials + Office and $5 for SharePoint). But this change is costing me at least $300 more a month than I was originally planning on paying.
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Really? I was using it last week (and posting about it on here), on my Business Plan. Are you sure? I thought it was a key component of O365.
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What, other than Sharepoint, even made something an E1 plan?
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I still see it, it's called Intranet site..
https://products.office.com/en-us/business/compare-more-office-365-for-business-plans
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E1 still lists the 1TB of OdFB too.
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OK I missed seeing Team Sites listed last night. OK E1 does still have it.
@scottalanmiller said in MS removed SharePoint from Business plans:
E1 still lists the 1TB of OdFB too.
The Business plans come with 1 TB of storage too, but we don't know if it's ODfB or OneDrive? Doesn't say.
And frankly, neither does E1 or better.
In either case, this doesn't improve my situation much - instead of being $10/user/month, it's $8. That's still $3 more that the Business plan was, at 60% more cost.
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@Carnival-Boy said in MS removed SharePoint from Business plans:
Really? I was using it last week (and posting about it on here), on my Business Plan. Are you sure? I thought it was a key component of O365.
Grandfather'ed baby! You and me both.
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I don't like using grandfathered products.
So it's still with the enterprise plans (but called Intranet Sites), but no longer with the business plans. Is that right?
If so, I can add to my ever growing list of reasons why the business plans suck and should be avoided, even for small businesses.
It all feels a bit bait and switch to me. I wonder how many companies have started out with the business plans and then been forced to upgrade to an Enterprise plan for one reason or another.
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@Carnival-Boy said in MS removed SharePoint from Business plans:
I don't like using grandfathered products.
MS does let you change to the current modern plan at your renewal time. I looked at my account, it's still called a Small Business account, instead of Business Essentials. I saw a link offering me to switch are renewal time.
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@Carnival-Boy said in MS removed SharePoint from Business plans:
So it's still with the enterprise plans (but called Intranet Sites), but no longer with the business plans. Is that right?
From what I can see, correct.
If so, I can add to my ever growing list of reasons why the business plans suck and should be avoided, even for small businesses.
It all feels a bit bait and switch to me. I wonder how many companies have started out with the business plans and then been forced to upgrade to an Enterprise plan for one reason or another.
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@Carnival-Boy said in MS removed SharePoint from Business plans:
If so, I can add to my ever growing list of reasons why the business plans suck and should be avoided, even for small businesses.
I believe that Scott has pretty much always suggested that people start at E1 and never look at anything less - back in the day this was, I believe, mainly because you couldn't switch from a Small Business account to an E level account, but I believe that MS has changed that now.
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@Carnival-Boy said in MS removed SharePoint from Business plans:
It all feels a bit bait and switch to me. I wonder how many companies have started out with the business plans and then been forced to upgrade to an Enterprise plan for one reason or another.
The changing of old plans is what feels wrong to me. The taking away of features makes me think that MS under priced the option and realized that they need to have people pay more to cover the costs (and the needed profit margin).
Why do small businesses get Office for $8.50/month, yet larger companies must pay $12? This graduated pricing scale is frustrating. The E3 plan is the awesome sweet spot, but it's still pretty darned expensive.
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It kind of makes sense if you compare it to their traditional products where they have Enterprise and Standard versions. The Enterprise versions are identical to the Standard versions but with the addition of extra features that tend to be used in larger companies. But it seems to be have been implemented on-the-fly, without much care and attention, and as a result it is incredibly confusing - especially when it seem to change every week.
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It's still listed here (called Team Sites):
https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-business-premium?
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@Carnival-Boy said in MS removed SharePoint from Business plans:
It kind of makes sense if you compare it to their traditional products where they have Enterprise and Standard versions. The Enterprise versions are identical to the Standard versions but with the addition of extra features that tend to be used in larger companies. But it seems to be have been implemented on-the-fly, without much care and attention, and as a result it is incredibly confusing - especially when it seem to change every week.
I agree with the standard vs enterprise level of things - but even that has lost some of it's potency because Windows Server no longer has any difference technologically between standard and enterprise. Instead it's just a licensing difference.
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@Dashrender I do not get your issue with this entire thread? All of the plans that had SharePoint still have SharePoint. All of the plans that did not, still do not.
Basically, the only plan that does not have SharePoint is the Office applications only plan, currently called "Office 365 Business." This plan, in all its various names, has never included that.
Also, the one comment not knowing if something was OneDrive or OneDrive for Business? That is being just flat dense. Office 365 "Business" plans come with OneDrive for Business. All of them.
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@JaredBusch said in MS removed SharePoint from Business plans:
@Dashrender I do not get your issue with this entire thread? All of the plans that had SharePoint still have SharePoint. All of the plans that did not, still do not.
Basically, the only plan that does not have SharePoint is the Office applications only plan, currently called "Office 365 Business." This plan, in all its various names, has never included that.
Here are the Business level plans - I used to have something called Small Business - which included SharePoint. But these new Business plans don't. There are two Business plans here that don't have SharePoint. But in the past they did, albeit under a slightly different name.
Also, the one comment not knowing if something was OneDrive or OneDrive for Business? That is being just flat dense. Office 365 "Business" plans come with OneDrive for Business. All of them.
I was being dense on purpose.. I do agree though - O365 business accounts, be it Business or Enterprise, they are probably all using ODfB, and not OneDrive.
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This was published back in 2014
https://products.office.com/en-us/business/moving-to-the-new-office-365-plans-for-small-and-midsized-businesses
So unless they just forgot to list Team Sites (aka SharePoint) it looks like they removed it within the past two years.
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@Dashrender said
So unless they just forgot to list Team Sites (aka SharePoint) it looks like they removed it within the past two years.
I just chatted with them. If you click "LEARN MORE" it is listed.
https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-business-essentials
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@Dashrender said in MS removed SharePoint from Business plans:
This was published back in 2014
https://products.office.com/en-us/business/moving-to-the-new-office-365-plans-for-small-and-midsized-businessesSo unless they just forgot to list Team Sites (aka SharePoint) it looks like they removed it within the past two years.
Click learn more. It is listed there. https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-business-essentials
