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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Are you booting from SD card? That would solve the issue, right?

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said

        Not yet, but soon.

        And yes, I know that if I was booting off USB/SD I could have copied the VM to my other storage repository and then redid my array. 😉

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

          @scottalanmiller said

          Not yet, but soon.

          And yes, I know that if I was booting off USB/SD I could have copied the VM to my other storage repository and then redid my array. 😉

          Yes, that too. But I also mean that the array could be managed without a reboot.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            That's anther good reason that we don't normally think of for installing to SD/USB.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said

              Yes, that too. But I also mean that the array could be managed without a reboot.

              You can install OMSA to a VM? I didn't think it would be able to access the hardware.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                @scottalanmiller said

                Yes, that too. But I also mean that the array could be managed without a reboot.

                You can install OMSA to a VM? I didn't think it would be able to access the hardware.

                You install directly to XenServer's Dom0 which has hardware access.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said

                  You install directly to XenServer's Dom0 which has hardware access.

                  I was going to ask about this in my roadtrip of XS.

                  So, then how do you access it? From a web browser just like any other OMSA install?

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                    @scottalanmiller said

                    You install directly to XenServer's Dom0 which has hardware access.

                    I was going to ask about this in my roadtrip of XS.

                    So, then how do you access it? From a web browser just like any other OMSA install?

                    Dom0 is just an operating system, CentOS in XenServer. It would host the application as if it were installed on any other server.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                      That's anther good reason that we don't normally think of for installing to SD/USB.

                      Did you see my post about the speed of my USB2 booted test XS. It is SO SLOW.

                      Is that normal since it is USB2?

                      Would SD be any quicker? though for the few times you update/reboot, perhaps the speed at boot/update isn't an issue.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                        @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                        That's anther good reason that we don't normally think of for installing to SD/USB.

                        Did you see my post about the speed of my USB2 booted test XS. It is SO SLOW.

                        Is that normal since it is USB2?

                        Would SD be any quicker? though for the few times you update/reboot, perhaps the speed at boot/update isn't an issue.

                        No, I missed it. How slow was it?

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @coliver
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                          @coliver said

                          Dom0 is just an operating system, CentOS in XenServer. It would host the application as if it were installed on any other server.

                          I'm confused as to why it matter you can't administer it if XS boots off the same array, then.

                          I could access OMSA from my desktop browser.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                            @coliver said

                            Dom0 is just an operating system, CentOS in XenServer. It would host the application as if it were installed on any other server.

                            I'm confused as to why it matter you can't administer it if XS boots off the same array, then.

                            I could access OMSA from my desktop browser.

                            If you were installing it onto an SD card or USB stick it wouldn't matter.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said

                              No, I missed it. How slow was it?

                              Pretty slow. But of course I was going from using a SSD.

                              It took the good part of an afternoon to install all the updates once I had it installed.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @coliver
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                                @coliver said

                                If you were installing it onto an SD card or USB stick it wouldn't matter.

                                Why would that even matter? Unless we are talking some sort of destructive operation to the array...

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @BRRABill
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                                  @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                  @coliver said

                                  If you were installing it onto an SD card or USB stick it wouldn't matter.

                                  Why would that even matter? Unless we are talking some sort of destructive operation to the array...

                                  I guess I'm not following, you were asking how to access something installed on Dom0. Did I misunderstand the question?

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @coliver
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                                    @coliver said

                                    I guess I'm not following, you were asking how to access something installed on Dom0. Did I misunderstand the question?

                                    @scottalanmiller said you could administer the array from a VM as long as it wasn't on the same array. I didn't understand why that would matter. Obviously if you werer going to torch the array, then yes. But why else would it matter?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                      @coliver said

                                      If you were installing it onto an SD card or USB stick it wouldn't matter.

                                      Why would that even matter? Unless we are talking some sort of destructive operation to the array...

                                      Right, rebooting is potentially destructive and why it is not recommended. It adds risk.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                        @coliver said

                                        I guess I'm not following, you were asking how to access something installed on Dom0. Did I misunderstand the question?

                                        @scottalanmiller said you could administer the array from a VM as long as it wasn't on the same array. I didn't understand why that would matter. Obviously if you werer going to torch the array, then yes. But why else would it matter?

                                        It matters for when you are NOT going to do it but just going to manage while it is rebuilding.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
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                                          Changing the array doesn't required a reboot. You should be able to do that on the fly.
                                          So if you are hitting off a SD or USB you could attach to iDrac and then to the controller software, then manage the array, all while XS is up and running.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill
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                                            @scottalanmiller

                                            Got it.

                                            So we're really just trying to avoid rebooting.

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