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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      Frankly I was amazed at how long it wasn't moderated - at least the title.

      My 2 cents - Titles should always be moderated, but the OP, if about an actual product name, should be left alone. And tags for a real product should be allowed, but only used to reference the aforementioned product(s).

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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        @aaronstuder said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

        https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=mangolassi.it+fuck

        Without even clicking, I am sure my name is in that search.....

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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          @MattSpeller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

          I see no issue with it, this is hardly a forum that will be browsed avidly by children.

          Probably not, but it would be nice if they felt comfortable using it AND if parents felt comfortable with them being here. Of course, in most work environments, like in NYC for sure, you would hear far worse in the office all of the time. No question there. Although there is something different about things being in print, than when things are spoken. It's not fleeting background noise, it's on peoples' screens as managers and coworkers walk by or whatever.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

            @aaronstuder said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

            https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=mangolassi.it+fuck

            Without even clicking, I am sure my name is in that search.....

            Turns out mine is, too.

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              Alex Sage @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch Bahahahahahaha. 😄

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                Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                Of course, in most work environments, like in NYC for sure, you would hear far worse in the office all of the time.

                or just walking down the street.....

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                  Frankly I was amazed at how long it wasn't moderated - at least the title.

                  Only the title ever was. Only that part shows up on other lists, like the RSS feed titles, recent list, unread list. So if we mod it there, and keep it in the topic, people know to peruse it or not at their discretion. It doesn't "pop up" when not wanted.

                  Like the "Anything Goes" random thread... people are warned that people will let loose there and that it is NSFW.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                    @MattSpeller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                    I see no issue with it, this is hardly a forum that will be browsed avidly by children.

                    Probably not, but it would be nice if they felt comfortable using it AND if parents felt comfortable with them being here. Of course, in most work environments, like in NYC for sure, you would hear far worse in the office all of the time. No question there. Although there is something different about things being in print, than when things are spoken. It's not fleeting background noise, it's on peoples' screens as managers and coworkers walk by or whatever.

                    this is the difference between a casual conversation and a post on Twitter or FB... the print/foreverness of it.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                      @aaronstuder said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                      Of course, in most work environments, like in NYC for sure, you would hear far worse in the office all of the time.

                      or just walking down the street.....

                      In NYC for sure.

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                        Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                        In NYC for sure.

                        That was my point! 😛

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                          My 2 cents - Titles should always be moderated, but the OP, if about an actual product name, should be left alone. And tags for a real product should be allowed, but only used to reference the aforementioned product(s).

                          I had wondered about the tags (there isn't one yet, moderated or not) but had not formed an opinion. But I think that I agree, a tag for this case would be fine, as is the link. It's really only in the thread title that I see concern and mostly because it is unavoidable AND out of context when seen.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                            @MattSpeller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                            I see no issue with it, this is hardly a forum that will be browsed avidly by children.

                            Probably not, but it would be nice if they felt comfortable using it AND if parents felt comfortable with them being here. Of course, in most work environments, like in NYC for sure, you would hear far worse in the office all of the time. No question there. Although there is something different about things being in print, than when things are spoken. It's not fleeting background noise, it's on peoples' screens as managers and coworkers walk by or whatever.

                            Of course the seeming Puritan views being pushed here have nothing to do with it. Japanese children grow up hearing what Americans consider swearwords used regularly on shows aimed at toddlers. It simply is not a thing to fear.

                            *Not saying they don't have there own slate of issues. jsut swearing isn't one of them.

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                            • MattSpellerM
                              MattSpeller @Alex Sage
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                              @aaronstuder said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                              https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=mangolassi.it+fuck

                              Shit.

                              0_1463694350619_upload-e959c30f-3e5d-4ea4-947b-b91659e29458

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @MattSpeller
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                                @MattSpeller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                                @aaronstuder said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                                https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=mangolassi.it+fuck

                                Shit.

                                funny enough i wasn't on page 1.

                                but....
                                https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=mangolassi.it+fuck+%40jaredbusch

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                                  @MattSpeller said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                                  I see no issue with it, this is hardly a forum that will be browsed avidly by children.

                                  Probably not, but it would be nice if they felt comfortable using it AND if parents felt comfortable with them being here. Of course, in most work environments, like in NYC for sure, you would hear far worse in the office all of the time. No question there. Although there is something different about things being in print, than when things are spoken. It's not fleeting background noise, it's on peoples' screens as managers and coworkers walk by or whatever.

                                  Of course the seeming Puritan views being pushed here have nothing to do with it. Japanese children grow up hearing what Americans consider swearwords used regularly on shows aimed at toddlers. It simply is not a thing to fear.

                                  *Not saying they don't have there own slate of issues. jsut swearing isn't one of them.

                                  I agree, I don't have an issue with it personally. But lots of people do or might, which gets into the question of... how far do you go to placate people who feel or might feel or we imagine will be offended? it's tough. all of us regulars don't care. It's the people reading casually or not piping up that we have to imagine what they will care about or not.

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                                  • thwrT
                                    thwr
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                                    My 0.02c: Whatever the future way will be (mod first or not), just keep it transparent.

                                    IMHO, a good community can't live without at least a certain amount of moderation. At least not with thousands of members. Problem is, moderation is and will probably ever be a tightrope walk, keeping it transparent should pay back at some point.

                                    About the product: Funny name, but I would have a hard time to explain my documentations cover sheet ("How to use Fck" or "About Fck".) to my boss 🙂

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by Dashrender

                                      personally the F word doesn't bother me.... but seeing the C word, which is used in London by the gallon I wouldn't appreciate seeing.

                                      It's a locality thing.

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                                      • thanksajdotcomT
                                        thanksajdotcom
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                                        Swearing doesn't have the connotation that it used to. It's far more common, and sometimes, many times, to get a point across to the correct effect, it's necessary. It's all about reasonableness though. Too often rules are made because someone took something to some extreme and ruins it for the 99.9% of people who don't abuse the system.

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @thwr
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                                          @thwr said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                                          My 0.02c:

                                          Stingy bastard 😉

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @thwr
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                                            @thwr said in What the Poo and Moderation of Swearing:

                                            My 0.02c: Whatever the future way will be (mod first or not), just keep it transparent.

                                            IMHO, a good community can't live without at least a certain amount of moderation. At least not with thousands of members. Problem is, moderation is and will probably ever be a tightrope walk, keeping it transparent should pay back at some point.

                                            About the product: Funny name, but I would have a hard time to explain my documentations cover sheet ("How to use Fck" or "About Fck".) to my boss 🙂

                                            Good point. I should have stuck a comment into the thread about why it was renamed. Didn't even occur to me as it felt so benign when I did it. My own oversight, no reason not to have explained it.

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