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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Other options would be to use LVM to create two logical volumes on that RAID device or use the RAID device's LVM system to do the same.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill
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        Can you think of any reason why XS would object to creating a folder in sr-mount?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

          Can you think of any reason why XS would object to creating a folder in sr-mount?

          Yes, if it is scanning that directory for folders believing that the existence of a folder in that location implies something, then yes.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said

            Yes, if it is scanning that directory for folders believing that the existence of a folder in that location implies something, then yes.

            Would it be safer, do you think, to go with your other method of shrinking the volume and adding another volume for the logging?

            I mean, I'd like to figure this out not just for me, but for all the people in the future who ML recommends XS on USB to.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              You've already done it, so I would just check and see how it is working.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said

                You've already done it, so I would just check and see how it is working.

                Seems fine.

                I just like to, you know, check.

                I figure someone here would know if it's an OK idea or say
                NO FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD DO NOT DO THAT!!!!

                We have other XS users ... what are they doing?

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

                  @scottalanmiller said

                  You've already done it, so I would just check and see how it is working.

                  Seems fine.

                  I just like to, you know, check.

                  I figure someone here would know if it's an OK idea or say
                  NO FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD DO NOT DO THAT!!!!

                  We have other XS users ... what are they doing?

                  Just letting it log to the usb drive for now. Yes, I've got a copy of the current config that gets taken every day should the usb stick croak.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @travisdh1
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                    @travisdh1 said

                    Just letting it log to the usb drive for now. Yes, I've got a copy of the current config that gets taken every day should the usb stick croak.

                    Out of curiosity, how are you copying the current config?

                    Cloning the USB? Or making backups through XC/CLI?

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
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                      So, things did not go so well overnight. (Note this is a test XS not my production box.)

                      Couple things happened. Not sure if it is a coincidence, or something more sinister.

                      I could not connect to this XS from either XC or Putty. You could connect through the local console.

                      The first thing I did, of course, was the check to see if the logging was still working. /var/log was sitting there with big fat red text. Hmmm. So I figured I would check the LV on /run/sr-mount to see when the logs stopped. Except that was no longer mounted there. Uh oh.

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                      I also noticed there seemed to be something wrong with the reporting of the devices.

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                      So, I decided to reboot the server, and hope it came back up. After taking a looooooooooong time to shut down, it did indeed come back up, but the same problem existed. The LV was not attached, and it had no network connectivity.

                      The LV still appears to be there, but I wonder if something else went wacky with this XS install. I mean, could putting a subfolder in the VM storage directory really cause this much havoc?

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
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                        I'm leaning towards something wacky, because even if the SR was detached for some reason, why would the networking not work as well?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Looks more like a crash than anything. So it is back up and working after the reboot?

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said

                            Looks more like a crash than anything. So it is back up and working after the reboot?

                            The SR is not mounted, and the networking is not working.

                            So no, not working. Which is why I wonder if the entire thing just went south for some reason.

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

                              @scottalanmiller said

                              Looks more like a crash than anything. So it is back up and working after the reboot?

                              The SR is not mounted, and the networking is not working.

                              So no, not working. Which is why I wonder if the entire thing just went south for some reason.

                              Something is wrong with that first lsblk output. System has crashed/been corrupted by something.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Well that sucks.

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

                                  Well that sucks.

                                  The good news is that this is Xen. Reinstall, import the storage repository, and import the configs, shouldn't take more than an hour.

                                  I'd be nervous about putting that into production till I figured out what caused the issue.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @travisdh1
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                                    @travisdh1 said

                                    Something is wrong with that first lsblk output. System has crashed/been corrupted by something.

                                    It came back "normal" after a reboot, but obviously a lot of functionality was hosed.

                                    I tried running a dd on this machine the other day, and it was taking forever.

                                    After about 90 minutes I stopped it, and it had only done 15GB thus far. (Of a 64 GB stick.)

                                    Possible maybe the USB stick was going bad, and finally gave up the ghost?

                                    Is it possible cancelling (^C) dd would have done anything to the source USB stick?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      dd only reads from the if device, it does not modify it. So no.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @travisdh1
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                                        @travisdh1 said

                                        I'd be nervous about putting that into production till I figured out what caused the issue.

                                        Oh yeah. Fortunately this was on my test machine.

                                        I'm more nervous that moving the logs caused this. Is there any chance that XS needs those logs set up the way they have them?

                                        Is anyone here actually moving their logs, or does everyone just write them to USB?

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said

                                          dd only reads from the if device, it does not modify it. So no.

                                          Would the crazy slow speed perhaps indicate potential impending failure? I mean, even at USB2 that is slow. It was doing 3MBps.

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                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                                            @BRRABill said in How to Stop XenServer from Mounting /var/log:

                                            Is it possible cancelling (^C) dd would have done anything to the source USB stick?

                                            dd input is read only, I'd suspect the flash drive initially. While I run hypervisors on them, I don't trust them at all. Gotta keep those backups.

                                            dd would take a long, long time if you have it copying something like /proc, /sys, or /dev.

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