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      Deleted74295 Banned @Carnival Boy
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      @Carnival-Boy said

      @Breffni-Potter tried to break one of my AES encrypted 7Zip files last year (and failed). Do you want to try a new challenge and crack one of my password protected Word files? I bet you can't.

      I actually succeeded on the first try remember? ๐Ÿ˜„

      My lab was in pieces and I never got around to doing it.

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        Carnival Boy
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        It's not too late to try ๐Ÿ™‚

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          Deleted74295 Banned @Carnival Boy
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          @Carnival-Boy said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

          It's not too late to try ๐Ÿ™‚

          True.

          I do know of 1 very sneaky trick though to instantly get the data.

          7ZIP stores a copy of the unencrypted file in the Windows temp directory.

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            Veet
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            Hi,

            This may be off-topic, I don't see many people talk of AD RMS, with or without Gigaworks / Secureislands etc..

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              Carnival Boy @Deleted74295
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              @Breffni-Potter said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

              @Carnival-Boy said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

              It's not too late to try ๐Ÿ™‚

              True.

              I do know of 1 very sneaky trick though to instantly get the data.

              7ZIP stores a copy of the unencrypted file in the Windows temp directory.

              Nice try. But 7Zip stores a copy in MY Windows temp directory, not yours. How do you propose getting access to my temp directory?

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                Deleted74295 Banned @Carnival Boy
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                @Carnival-Boy said

                Nice try. But 7Zip stores a copy in MY Windows temp directory, not yours. How do you propose getting access to my temp directory?

                Yes that's what I meant. But it would also store it in the temp directory of any machine which decrypts with 7zip. As for how I get access to the temp directory, how determined am I to get your data? If the data was that important, why not just steal the desktop?

                Bitlocker can be completely cracked apart in a minute if the following conditions are met.

                Hibernation is enabled
                The machine is in sleep/not turned off.

                Then all that needs to happen is the laptop (most likely) to be stolen, which is typically left on sleep mode and then the bitlocker protection is null and void.

                Electronic attack is not the only threat and most of the data breaches in the media have been due to lost USBs, lost laptops and so on.

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                  Carnival Boy
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                  Is that your long-winded way of admitting defeat in my challenge ๐Ÿ™‚

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                    Carnival Boy
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                    Although if I come in to work tomorrow and find my laptop has been stolen and there's a note on my desk that says "I win, love from Breffni", you'll have taken the challenge too far.

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                      Deleted74295 Banned @Carnival Boy
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                      @Carnival-Boy said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

                      Although if I come in to work tomorrow and find my laptop has been stolen and there's a note on my desk that says "I win, love from Breffni", you'll have taken the challenge too far.

                      All is fair in love, war and hacking contests.

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                        Deleted74295 Banned @Carnival Boy
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                        @Carnival-Boy said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

                        Is that your long-winded way of admitting defeat in my challenge ๐Ÿ™‚

                        As a good politician says, we will not accept defeat but we are considering all of our options in this matter.

                        One of them involves @scottalanmiller doing me a favour....so please hold.

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                          Carnival Boy @Deleted74295
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                          @Breffni-Potter said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

                          ....so please hold.

                          Take your time - I've already waited a year.

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                            scottalanmiller @Veet
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                            @Veet said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

                            Hi,

                            This may be off-topic, I don't see many people talk of AD RMS, with or without Gigaworks / Secureislands etc..

                            I'm certainly avoiding it because I have no idea what it is ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                              scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                              @Carnival-Boy said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

                              @Breffni-Potter said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

                              @Carnival-Boy said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

                              It's not too late to try ๐Ÿ™‚

                              True.

                              I do know of 1 very sneaky trick though to instantly get the data.

                              7ZIP stores a copy of the unencrypted file in the Windows temp directory.

                              Nice try. But 7Zip stores a copy in MY Windows temp directory, not yours. How do you propose getting access to my temp directory?

                              As an admin, we'd have access. The purpose of encrypting (in the OP's scenario) is to overcome the inherent need to trust the admin. Not a third party. Encryption for transfer to a third party is a very different scenario and yes, it would make sense there. But that's not how the OP is using it.

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                                scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                @Carnival-Boy said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

                                Although if I come in to work tomorrow and find my laptop has been stolen and there's a note on my desk that says "I win, love from Breffni", you'll have taken the challenge too far.

                                .... challenge accepted.... ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                  Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

                                  @Veet said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

                                  Hi,

                                  This may be off-topic, I don't see many people talk of AD RMS, with or without Gigaworks / Secureislands etc..

                                  I'm certainly avoiding it because I have no idea what it is ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  Gigaworks / Secure Islands I've never heard of

                                  AD RMS = Active Directory Rights Management Services.

                                  "By using Active Directory Rights Management Services (AD RMS) and the AD RMS client, you can augment an organization's security strategy by protecting information through persistent usage policies, which remain with the information, no matter where it is moved. You can use AD RMS to help prevent sensitive informationโ€”such as financial reports, product specifications, customer data, and confidential e-mail messagesโ€”from intentionally or accidentally getting into the wrong hands."

                                  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771627(v=ws.11).aspx

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