Cloud Provider...what to use
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I'd like to start using more cloud services for hosting server applications.
AWS / AZURE/ DigitalOcean / Rackspace - These are the ones i'm weighing up.My first project will be to host UniFi wireless AP's on a cloud controller. It's pretty simple enough as i understand but im finding the hard part picking what Service provider to use.
The second project I aim to do is use a server for a Backup repository which will need to be backed up and replicated so I can offer new backup facility to clients - thinking of using Veeam If anyone has experience with this, please let me know (I hear Azure have a Veeam Connect dedicated application)...I'll probably start a new thread about this in good time..But first to decide whats the best provider to use.
Note: I'm UK based so having data centre this side of the pool is preferred.
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
AWS / AZURE/ DigitalOcean / Rackspace - These are the ones i'm weighing up.
This doesn't make a lot of sense. These do not play in the same space, I can't think of pretty much any possible situation where you would be comparing these to each other.
AWS, Azure, Softlayer and Rackspace... these compete.
Digital Ocean, Vultr, Linode and some others, these compete.
Are you looking for VPS or DevOps style? You need to figure out the goal before selecting candidates.
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
My first project will be to host UniFi wireless AP's on a cloud controller. It's pretty simple enough as i understand but im finding the hard part picking what Service provider to use.
Unless you have an Azure requirement, that really shouldn't make the list. Hard to use, expensive, fragile, complex, buggy, poor support... no upsides except unique features. How did this make the short list?
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Note: I'm UK based so having data centre this side of the pool is preferred.
Pretty much everyone is in the UK, so not really a limiting factor in any way. Can't think of anyone not there.
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Here is a basic question that maybe got missed... are you going to run Windows? If you are, that rules out most of those providers. If you are not, that effectively rules out many of the others.
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Are you looking for VPS or DevOps style? You need to figure out the goal before selecting candidates.
Yup, looking for a VPS
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@scottalanmiller said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Here is a basic question that maybe got missed... are you going to run Windows? If you are, that rules out most of those providers. If you are not, that effectively rules out many of the others.
Ideally Windows yes
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@scottalanmiller said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
My first project will be to host UniFi wireless AP's on a cloud controller. It's pretty simple enough as i understand but im finding the hard part picking what Service provider to use.
Unless you have an Azure requirement, that really shouldn't make the list. Hard to use, expensive, fragile, complex, buggy, poor support... no upsides except unique features. How did this make the short list?
I guess I like Azure because it's Microsoft! But having played a bit with it share your feelings about it
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Are you looking for VPS or DevOps style? You need to figure out the goal before selecting candidates.
Yup, looking for a VPS
That rules out AWS and Azure. They don't offer that.
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
@scottalanmiller said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Here is a basic question that maybe got missed... are you going to run Windows? If you are, that rules out most of those providers. If you are not, that effectively rules out many of the others.
Ideally Windows yes
That rules out Digital Ocean.
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
@scottalanmiller said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
My first project will be to host UniFi wireless AP's on a cloud controller. It's pretty simple enough as i understand but im finding the hard part picking what Service provider to use.
Unless you have an Azure requirement, that really shouldn't make the list. Hard to use, expensive, fragile, complex, buggy, poor support... no upsides except unique features. How did this make the short list?
I guess I like Azure because it's Microsoft! But having played a bit with it share your feelings about it
Why would that make you like it? I like MIcrosoft, but they aren't a datacentre company and they aren't all that good at it. They make it expensive and poor.
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So given your requirements and list, it's easy. Rackspace is the only option. You don't even need to make the decision, it's literally the only option.
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Now that the thread itself is answered, that was an easy one, the question should be... why are you looking at Windows on cloud computing? This will typically quadruple your costs. Windows is painfully expensive when you move to cloud, nowhere is it more apparent than when the flat, monthly bill is astronomic for something that should be dirt cheap.
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Just to give a comparison... Windows workload on Azure moved to Linux workload on Digital Ocean for us was something like $80 to $10 per month, per workload. That's 800% savings!!
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Why do you want Windows in the cloud?
Ubiquiti controller runs great on linux and will cost you a ton less.
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@Dashrender said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Why do you want Windows in the cloud?
Ubiquiti controller runs great on linux and will cost you a ton less.
as one example of why not to use windows.I dont know Linux to be honest. If it's just a couple of scripts to run to get it up and running, then I can figure it out.
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Windows is very expensive to run in a cloud environment Besides Azure, I'm not sure who can even do it legally.
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
@Dashrender said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Why do you want Windows in the cloud?
Ubiquiti controller runs great on linux and will cost you a ton less.
as one example of why not to use windows.I dont know Linux to be honest. If it's just a couple of scripts to run to get it up and running, then I can figure it out.
It won't be SUPER simple, but it won't be hugely painful either. there are a ton of guides online that walk you through all of the steps for most anything you want to do.
So starting with your first project, UBNT controller - what OS do you want to run it on in the cloud? If you're to go Linux, look on the UBNT website for suggestions on what OS of Linux is generally supported by UBNT, then setup one of those in a VPS.
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@Joel said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
@Dashrender said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Why do you want Windows in the cloud?
Ubiquiti controller runs great on linux and will cost you a ton less.
as one example of why not to use windows.I dont know Linux to be honest. If it's just a couple of scripts to run to get it up and running, then I can figure it out.
Depends what you need, Linux itself is pretty easy. The product in question is a question about the product, not Linux.
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@Dashrender said in Cloud Provider...what to use:
Windows is very expensive to run in a cloud environment Besides Azure, I'm not sure who can even do it legally.
Rackspace, AWS. Anyone that offers it, except Cloud@Cost. They are the only illegal provider I've ever heard of.
