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    Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Crazy. I hope millions of people stop buying HP forever because of this. I'll certainly never do business with them again.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        @Dominica just said that they have started a new ink subscription model that is likely why they decided to vandalize peoples' printers in the hopes of extorting more money from them through the new subscription model.

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        • gjacobseG
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          As a temporary work around I have re-connected the old HP LJ3030.. which isn't networkable. However I have a very old SimpleShare NAS that can act as a print server. it's not worked right in a while with the external USB devices, but is currently. So I am able to print (the UPS shipping labels) for the now.

          Sometimes it pays to keep old tech around.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            As a long term solution... Brother printers.

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

              As a long term solution... Brother printers.

              Might go Lexmark

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1
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                Or Epson EcoTanks. The secretary here loves it, even tho it tends to get paper jams.

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                • bbigfordB
                  bbigford
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                  I always recommend Epson for inkjet and laserjet is a toss up. When I go for low cost I recommend Brother, anything else is usually HP or Canon.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Epson and Brother are good. Never been happy with Lexmark.

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                    • prcssupportP
                      prcssupport @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                      As a long term solution... Brother printers.

                      Maybe I won't let my wife sell my brother "printer" in the garage sale after all.

                      I have an hp office jet pro x451. So far it's been amazing but I haven't burned through the factory cartridges just yet.

                      I was planning on buying after market refills, hoping I wouldn't have an issue.

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller
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                        Canon used to make some with simple clear plastic ink tanks which you could refill easily and for pennies. I own one but have not used it in ages.

                        I only ever use a laser printer, and that's for toner transfer - probably 10 pages a year on average.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
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                          EFF has a petition

                          https://act.eff.org/action/tell-hp-say-no-to-drm

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                            EFF has a petition

                            https://act.eff.org/action/tell-hp-say-no-to-drm

                            Signed and shared.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
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                              They are backtracking

                              https://news.google.com/news/ampviewer?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theverge.com%2Fplatform%2Famp%2Fcircuitbreaker%2F2016%2F9%2F29%2F13111324%2Fhp-piracy-drm-firmware-update#pt0-553639

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                              • scottalanmillerS
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                                THe quote is: "HP is backtracking on a firmware update that recently blocked some printers from using third-party ink cartridges. Some users reported that the update sometimes mistakenly marked legitimate ink as fake, so HP’s CEO Jon Flaxman wrote today that the company will issue a new update to turn off the DRM.

                                HP also clarified that third-party cartridges still work with the original update, so long as they’re built with HP security chips — aka HP is getting a cut of their business. The first mandatory update took effect on September 13th and forced printers to display "damaged cartridge" whenever a bad third-party cartridge was loaded. Following its activation, at least one company vowed to create new chips that could subvert the security check. It looks like that won’t be needed for now."

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                                • dafyreD
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                                  Still a no-buy in my book now. I'll probably stop recommending all HP products, as well... just in case they start trying to mark 3rd party hard drives as bad in controller / firmware updates. At least those are less likely to happen automagically.

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                                  • Minion QueenM
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                                    Yeah it is enough reason for me to not buy anything as well. However we went to Brother for printer a few years ago.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                      Still a no-buy in my book now. I'll probably stop recommending all HP products, as well... just in case they start trying to mark 3rd party hard drives as bad in controller / firmware updates. At least those are less likely to happen automagically.

                                      They already do this. As does Dell.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                        @dafyre said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                        Still a no-buy in my book now. I'll probably stop recommending all HP products, as well... just in case they start trying to mark 3rd party hard drives as bad in controller / firmware updates. At least those are less likely to happen automagically.

                                        THat's what I was wondering would happen. HP did something bad, and now people are already blaming HPE - a different company.

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                                        • Minion QueenM
                                          Minion Queen @Minion Queen
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                                          @Minion-Queen said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                          Yeah it is enough reason for me to not buy anything as well. However we went to Brother for printer a few years ago.

                                          Remember there is a difference between HP and HPE though as @scottalanmiller has reminded us.

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                                          • zuphzuphZ
                                            zuphzuph Banned
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                                            Meh, not worried about it I always buy genuine. I've tried 3rd party in the past and they tend to give nothing but issues... Seems they have a much shorter lifespan as well.

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