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    • thanksajdotcomT
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      Heart-implant patients might be at risk of having their devices hacked

      http://www.reuters.com/article/us-st-jude-medical-cyber-muddywaters-idUSKCN12O1O1

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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        @thanksajdotcom said in Non-IT News Thread:

        Heart-implant patients might be at risk of having their devices hacked

        http://www.reuters.com/article/us-st-jude-medical-cyber-muddywaters-idUSKCN12O1O1

        Seems like either they are or are not at risk. Hard to believe that there is such a concept as "might be at risk."

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Would that be "risk of being at risk"? And if so, isn't that just... risk?

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

            Would that be "risk of being at risk"? And if so, isn't that just... risk?

            Yep, for sure. I know that my dad's pacemaker is programmable along with the contactless charging, tho to do either, you have to place something directly over the control unit on his chest. I'd be more than a little peed off if they made them able to use bluetooth.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              Would that be "risk of being at risk"? And if so, isn't that just... risk?

              It's Schrodinger's risk.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                Would that be "risk of being at risk"? And if so, isn't that just... risk?

                Yep, for sure. I know that my dad's pacemaker is programmable along with the contactless charging, tho to do either, you have to place something directly over the control unit on his chest. I'd be more than a little peed off if they made them able to use bluetooth.

                What limits that range? We've seen all kinds of range extension attacks as of late (well actually for a while now). If it uses radio, how are you not pretty much screwed..

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                • StrongBadS
                  StrongBad @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  Would that be "risk of being at risk"? And if so, isn't that just... risk?

                  Yep, for sure. I know that my dad's pacemaker is programmable along with the contactless charging, tho to do either, you have to place something directly over the control unit on his chest. I'd be more than a little peed off if they made them able to use bluetooth.

                  What limits that range? We've seen all kinds of range extension attacks as of late (well actually for a while now). If it uses radio, how are you not pretty much screwed..

                  Radio technology, normally. Some of those signals effectively die after an inch or two.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    Would that be "risk of being at risk"? And if so, isn't that just... risk?

                    Yep, for sure. I know that my dad's pacemaker is programmable along with the contactless charging, tho to do either, you have to place something directly over the control unit on his chest. I'd be more than a little peed off if they made them able to use bluetooth.

                    What limits that range? We've seen all kinds of range extension attacks as of late (well actually for a while now). If it uses radio, how are you not pretty much screwed..

                    Have you ever used the contactless charging? I refuse to call it wireless charging, because it just will not work without being within millimeters of the charging device. The only communications it does is through the same hall-effect, so no, no "radio".

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      Would that be "risk of being at risk"? And if so, isn't that just... risk?

                      Yep, for sure. I know that my dad's pacemaker is programmable along with the contactless charging, tho to do either, you have to place something directly over the control unit on his chest. I'd be more than a little peed off if they made them able to use bluetooth.

                      What limits that range? We've seen all kinds of range extension attacks as of late (well actually for a while now). If it uses radio, how are you not pretty much screwed..

                      Have you ever used the contactless charging? I refuse to call it wireless charging, because it just will not work without being within millimeters of the charging device. The only communications it does is through the same hall-effect, so no, no "radio".

                      Yep, I've used that contactless charging before... I thought the field could be amplified to make it work from a larger distance, but I could be mistaken. didn't know you could pass data that way, though I suppose I would be surprised if it couldn't be done.

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                      • StrongBadS
                        StrongBad @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        Would that be "risk of being at risk"? And if so, isn't that just... risk?

                        Yep, for sure. I know that my dad's pacemaker is programmable along with the contactless charging, tho to do either, you have to place something directly over the control unit on his chest. I'd be more than a little peed off if they made them able to use bluetooth.

                        What limits that range? We've seen all kinds of range extension attacks as of late (well actually for a while now). If it uses radio, how are you not pretty much screwed..

                        Have you ever used the contactless charging? I refuse to call it wireless charging, because it just will not work without being within millimeters of the charging device. The only communications it does is through the same hall-effect, so no, no "radio".

                        Yep, I've used that contactless charging before... I thought the field could be amplified to make it work from a larger distance, but I could be mistaken. didn't know you could pass data that way, though I suppose I would be surprised if it couldn't be done.

                        Amplified, yes. But how does one amplify a pace maker? And the amount of power goes up exponentially. What is 1mw at 1mm might be 100w at 1cm.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Belgium Walloons block key EU Ceta trade deal with Canada
                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37749236

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Keep it classy, Texas.

                            Topless selfie student crashes into Texas police car
                            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37795008

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Powerful quake hits central Italy near Norcia
                              http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37814975

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                              • mlnewsM
                                mlnews
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                                And the Cubs win.

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @mlnews
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                                  @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  And the Cubs win.

                                  [moderated] Tribe. I suppose Cleveland fans should be used to a team falling over, some just happen to fall a lot sooner in the season (Browns QBs this year anyone, lol)

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver
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                                    http://arstechnica.com/features/2016/11/internet-based-and-open-source-how-e-voting-is-working-around-the-globe

                                    Interesting read.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Brexit court defeat for UK government
                                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37857785

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        US actor Steven Seagal given Russian citizenship by Putin
                                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37858513

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          Brexit court defeat for UK government
                                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37857785

                                          Didn't the EU tell the UK to hurry up and get out? Just seems like we won't see Brexit happen in the 2020's.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver
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                                            http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/private-microwave-networks-financial-hft/

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