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    • thwrT
      thwr
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      Probably like this:
      Youtube Video

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      • KellyK
        Kelly
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        "We call it..." pause for emphasis "TouchBar." Insert applause.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @thwr
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          @thwr I'm so confused.

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          • thwrT
            thwr @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Mocking the Apple live event:

            @thwr I'm so confused.

            Why?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @thwr
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              @thwr said in Mocking the Apple live event:

              @DustinB3403 said in Mocking the Apple live event:

              @thwr I'm so confused.

              Why?

              The video is just odd, like why is she rolling around in a puddle of dirty water?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                @thwr said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                @DustinB3403 said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                @thwr I'm so confused.

                Why?

                The video is just odd, like why is she rolling around in a puddle of dirty water?

                Because, mud wrestling.

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                • thwrT
                  thwr @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                  @thwr said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                  @thwr I'm so confused.

                  Why?

                  The video is just odd, like why is she rolling around in a puddle of dirty water?

                  Because it's a voodoo ceremony? Your next question is probably: "How is that related to an Apple event" -> Religon

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                  • KellyK
                    Kelly
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                    TL;DL - We put a touch strip on the keyboard because we can't figure out how to make a touchscreen MacBook.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @Kelly
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                      @Kelly said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                      TL;DL - We put a touch strip on the keyboard because we can't figure out how to make a touchscreen MacBook.

                      haha .. .

                      we added a smaller trackpad. . . and fingerprints fuck up the picture quality. . .

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                        @Kelly said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                        TL;DL - We put a touch strip on the keyboard because we can't figure out how to make a touchscreen MacBook.

                        Bwahahaha

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                        • crustachioC
                          crustachio
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                          That Photoshop demo was legit. Mock if you wish, but this is a great arrow in the quiver for power users in almost any context.

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                          • KellyK
                            Kelly @crustachio
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                            @crustachio said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                            That Photoshop demo was legit. Mock if you wish, but this is a great arrow in the quiver for power users in almost any context.

                            I object generally to the presentation over the MBP itself or the TouchBar. That said, having the Touchbar so far up the on the keyboard doesn't make it very useful. The travel time from the natural rest point or from the mouse is far enough that only having the functionality of a single bar compared to an entire touch screen (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio) doesn't make the travel time worth it. This seems more gimmicky than terribly useful imo. Now, TouchID is worth it. That is a big deal, particularly for my company.

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                            • crustachioC
                              crustachio @Kelly
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                              @Kelly I appreciate your opinion, but I think it's important not to be dismissive until you try it. Many many people thought the concept of an entirely touchscreen phone with no physical keys was gimmicky as well.

                              For keyboard warriors, this opens up the world of GUI-oriented contextual shortcuts without needing to memorize hundreds of keyboard shortcut combos per app. To say nothing of the completely unique UI opportunities that arise from hands-on manipulation of live controls, as demonstrated in the Photoshop and DJ demos.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                                @Kelly said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                @crustachio said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                That Photoshop demo was legit. Mock if you wish, but this is a great arrow in the quiver for power users in almost any context.

                                I object generally to the presentation over the MBP itself or the TouchBar. That said, having the Touchbar so far up the on the keyboard doesn't make it very useful. The travel time from the natural rest point or from the mouse is far enough that only having the functionality of a single bar compared to an entire touch screen (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio) doesn't make the travel time worth it. This seems more gimmicky than terribly useful imo. Now, TouchID is worth it. That is a big deal, particularly for my company.

                                Isn't that the same thing that makes touch screens so bad?

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                                • KellyK
                                  Kelly @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                  @Kelly said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                  @crustachio said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                  That Photoshop demo was legit. Mock if you wish, but this is a great arrow in the quiver for power users in almost any context.

                                  I object generally to the presentation over the MBP itself or the TouchBar. That said, having the Touchbar so far up the on the keyboard doesn't make it very useful. The travel time from the natural rest point or from the mouse is far enough that only having the functionality of a single bar compared to an entire touch screen (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio) doesn't make the travel time worth it. This seems more gimmicky than terribly useful imo. Now, TouchID is worth it. That is a big deal, particularly for my company.

                                  Isn't that the same thing that makes touch screens so bad?

                                  I've heard you expound on this perspective, and I don't necessarily agree with it. On a smaller sized laptops, keyboard+touchscreen is very usable, and for many, is more intuitive than keyboard+mouse. It doesn't have the same precision as a mouse, but for many usages it is faster and more intuitive than traveling from keyboard to mouse and back.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                                    @Kelly said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                    @Kelly said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                    @crustachio said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                    That Photoshop demo was legit. Mock if you wish, but this is a great arrow in the quiver for power users in almost any context.

                                    I object generally to the presentation over the MBP itself or the TouchBar. That said, having the Touchbar so far up the on the keyboard doesn't make it very useful. The travel time from the natural rest point or from the mouse is far enough that only having the functionality of a single bar compared to an entire touch screen (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio) doesn't make the travel time worth it. This seems more gimmicky than terribly useful imo. Now, TouchID is worth it. That is a big deal, particularly for my company.

                                    Isn't that the same thing that makes touch screens so bad?

                                    I've heard you expound on this perspective, and I don't necessarily agree with it. On a smaller sized laptops, keyboard+touchscreen is very usable, and for many, is more intuitive than keyboard+mouse. It doesn't have the same precision as a mouse, but for many usages it is faster and more intuitive than traveling from keyboard to mouse and back.

                                    The point that bothers me, though, is the long travel time between my fingers and the screen. It's very awkward to use a keyboard and touch screen.

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                                    • KellyK
                                      Kelly @crustachio
                                      last edited by

                                      @crustachio said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                      @Kelly I appreciate your opinion, but I think it's important not to be dismissive until you try it. Many many people thought the concept of an entirely touchscreen phone with no physical keys was gimmicky as well.

                                      For keyboard warriors, this opens up the world of GUI-oriented contextual shortcuts without needing to memorize hundreds of keyboard shortcut combos per app. To say nothing of the completely unique UI opportunities that arise from hands-on manipulation of live controls, as demonstrated in the Photoshop and DJ demos.

                                      I am reserving full judgement until I can get my hands on one, but it seems from this end to be more of a gimmick. Again, my mockery was aimed primarily at the presentation and not the actual thing.

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                                      • KellyK
                                        Kelly @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                        @Kelly said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                        @Kelly said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                        @crustachio said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                        That Photoshop demo was legit. Mock if you wish, but this is a great arrow in the quiver for power users in almost any context.

                                        I object generally to the presentation over the MBP itself or the TouchBar. That said, having the Touchbar so far up the on the keyboard doesn't make it very useful. The travel time from the natural rest point or from the mouse is far enough that only having the functionality of a single bar compared to an entire touch screen (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio) doesn't make the travel time worth it. This seems more gimmicky than terribly useful imo. Now, TouchID is worth it. That is a big deal, particularly for my company.

                                        Isn't that the same thing that makes touch screens so bad?

                                        I've heard you expound on this perspective, and I don't necessarily agree with it. On a smaller sized laptops, keyboard+touchscreen is very usable, and for many, is more intuitive than keyboard+mouse. It doesn't have the same precision as a mouse, but for many usages it is faster and more intuitive than traveling from keyboard to mouse and back.

                                        The point that bothers me, though, is the long travel time between my fingers and the screen. It's very awkward to use a keyboard and touch screen.

                                        Keyboard to screen is faster/easier in general usage for me than keyboard to mouse, and faster than keyboard and trackpad. YMMV.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                                          @Kelly said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                          @Kelly said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                          @Kelly said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                          @crustachio said in Mocking the Apple live event:

                                          That Photoshop demo was legit. Mock if you wish, but this is a great arrow in the quiver for power users in almost any context.

                                          I object generally to the presentation over the MBP itself or the TouchBar. That said, having the Touchbar so far up the on the keyboard doesn't make it very useful. The travel time from the natural rest point or from the mouse is far enough that only having the functionality of a single bar compared to an entire touch screen (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio) doesn't make the travel time worth it. This seems more gimmicky than terribly useful imo. Now, TouchID is worth it. That is a big deal, particularly for my company.

                                          Isn't that the same thing that makes touch screens so bad?

                                          I've heard you expound on this perspective, and I don't necessarily agree with it. On a smaller sized laptops, keyboard+touchscreen is very usable, and for many, is more intuitive than keyboard+mouse. It doesn't have the same precision as a mouse, but for many usages it is faster and more intuitive than traveling from keyboard to mouse and back.

                                          The point that bothers me, though, is the long travel time between my fingers and the screen. It's very awkward to use a keyboard and touch screen.

                                          Keyboard to screen is faster/easier in general usage for me than keyboard to mouse, and faster than keyboard and trackpad. YMMV.

                                          I don't have to leave my keyboard to use the trackpad, though (except on a Mac, their touchpads blow) and going to the mouse is easier because it is lateral elbow joint movement rather than linear shoulder movement with a hovering hand.

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                                          • s.hacklemanS
                                            s.hackleman
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                                            Maybe I'm OCD, but I don't want anyones nasty fingers on my monitor.. especially my own.

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