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    • art_of_shredA
      art_of_shred Banned @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

      @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

      @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

      Investing in something more generally useful might be worth looking at. A dedicated NAS that has only one purpose might be a management pain long term.

      Such as?

      Something bigger than could be used for live files as well. At such a small scale paying for servers for each little need is not efficient. Why not grow the existing storage by that amount, for example?

      Existing storage is a data drive in a user's desktop. I suppose that could be added to with another hard drive.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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        @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

        @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

        @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

        I also get the feeling that low price is an important factor. It doesn't seem that all players are convinced they really need to hang on to those files at all.

        Could always just get a USB external drive and call it a day.

        This needs to be available to multiple users and computers on the network.

        1 How does it have "needs" when they don't think that they need it at all?

        2 anything it is attached to could share it out. Just attach it to the existing storage pool.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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          @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

          @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

          @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

          @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

          Investing in something more generally useful might be worth looking at. A dedicated NAS that has only one purpose might be a management pain long term.

          Such as?

          Something bigger than could be used for live files as well. At such a small scale paying for servers for each little need is not efficient. Why not grow the existing storage by that amount, for example?

          Existing storage is a data drive in a user's desktop. I suppose that could be added to with another hard drive.

          So they feel that the "live" storage doesn't need a server. But the "unneeded archive" does? Something doesn't jive there.

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          • art_of_shredA
            art_of_shred Banned
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            The graphics RIP software opens files that are currently on the lead graphics guy's hard drive, and sends them to the printer. That space will be too small going forward, so they want a storage space that will be adequate, that they can point the RIP software to, to grab graphics files. It's that simple. Because of the possible size they are thinking about providing, I wondered if a NAS was the best move for the buck. Maybe I'm not accurate on what things cost, but heading towards a server doesn't seem to be a cost-effective solution.

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

              If there is long term growth, how big will it get? Rack mount units are a bit more expensive.

              SAM-SD is, of course, totally viable and a Dell R510 from xByte ....

              Sorry for the quick threadjack...
              What would be the OS of choice on the SAM-SD?

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              • coliverC
                coliver @FATeknollogee
                last edited by

                @FATeknollogee said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                If there is long term growth, how big will it get? Rack mount units are a bit more expensive.

                SAM-SD is, of course, totally viable and a Dell R510 from xByte ....

                Sorry for the quick threadjack...
                What would be the OS of choice on the SAM-SD?

                BSD or Linux.

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                • art_of_shredA
                  art_of_shred Banned @FATeknollogee
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                  @FATeknollogee said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                  If there is long term growth, how big will it get? Rack mount units are a bit more expensive.

                  SAM-SD is, of course, totally viable and a Dell R510 from xByte ....

                  Sorry for the quick threadjack...
                  What would be the OS of choice on the SAM-SD?

                  See:

                  https://mangolassi.it/topic/6233/open-storage-operating-systems-for-sam-sd

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                  • gjacobseG
                    gjacobse
                    last edited by gjacobse

                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/6231/what-is-a-sam-sd

                    Which doesn't actual mention the OS,...

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @coliver
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                      @coliver said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                      @FATeknollogee said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                      If there is long term growth, how big will it get? Rack mount units are a bit more expensive.

                      SAM-SD is, of course, totally viable and a Dell R510 from xByte ....

                      Sorry for the quick threadjack...
                      What would be the OS of choice on the SAM-SD?

                      BSD or Linux.

                      Linux is not an OS

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                        @coliver said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                        @FATeknollogee said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                        If there is long term growth, how big will it get? Rack mount units are a bit more expensive.

                        SAM-SD is, of course, totally viable and a Dell R510 from xByte ....

                        Sorry for the quick threadjack...
                        What would be the OS of choice on the SAM-SD?

                        BSD or Linux.

                        Linux is not an OS

                        Nor is BSD for that matter. I was referencing Linux based distributions.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          Scott has listed specific distros in the past that he recommends, but I can't recall off the top of my head.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                            Scott has listed specific distros in the past that he recommends, but I can't recall off the top of my head.

                            They're at the link.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
                              last edited by DustinB3403

                              I know I missed most of this conversation, but at the requested 12TB and for cheap, wouldn't a 4-6 bay synology in RAID6 be enough?

                              Four 8 TB drives in RAID6 provide ~16.5TB of storage. The DS916+ empty is $600, add the four 8TB drives and you're talking only $1500.

                              Which is really a low cost approach.

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller
                                last edited by

                                Synology

                                Start with large disks and it should leave the company some room to grow.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                  I know I missed most of this conversation, but at the requested 12TB and for cheap, wouldn't a 4-6 bay synology in RAID6 be enough?

                                  Four 8 TB drives in RAID6 provide ~16.5TB of storage. The DS916+ empty is $600, add the four 8TB drives and you're talking only $1500.

                                  Which is really a low cost approach.

                                  Four 8TB drives in RAID10 provides 16TB of faster storage 😉

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
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                                    @MattSpeller True.

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                                    • MattSpellerM
                                      MattSpeller
                                      last edited by MattSpeller

                                      5 bay, you can load it right full of huge drives for slow and stable storage

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller
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                                        8 bay, you can load it right full of huge drives and RAID10 it for higher performance

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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                                          @art_of_shred said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                          The graphics RIP software opens files that are currently on the lead graphics guy's hard drive, and sends them to the printer. That space will be too small going forward, so they want a storage space that will be adequate, that they can point the RIP software to, to grab graphics files. It's that simple. Because of the possible size they are thinking about providing, I wondered if a NAS was the best move for the buck. Maybe I'm not accurate on what things cost, but heading towards a server doesn't seem to be a cost-effective solution.

                                          An external drive on his desktop seems like it would be even more transparent to everything involved.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by

                                            @FATeknollogee said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Looking to buy a NAS to store graphics files long-term.:

                                            If there is long term growth, how big will it get? Rack mount units are a bit more expensive.

                                            SAM-SD is, of course, totally viable and a Dell R510 from xByte ....

                                            Sorry for the quick threadjack...
                                            What would be the OS of choice on the SAM-SD?

                                            Depends on the specific need. But CentOS or Suse most often. FreeBSD in many cases. Windows in a few.

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