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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      I've got an EdgeRouter X SFP at home, and a nice chunk of some bonus money on an Amazon gift card. Wondered if anyone's used those PoE to USB adapters and if you'd recommend on over another? Thinking about powering a Rasspberri Pi through it for now.

      The thought originated in ERL vs ER.

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      • gjacobseG
        gjacobse @travisdh1
        last edited by

        @travisdh1 said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

        I've got an EdgeRouter X SFP at home, and a nice chunk of some bonus money on an Amazon gift card. Wondered if anyone's used those PoE to USB adapters and if you'd recommend on over another? Thinking about powering a Rasspberri Pi through it for now.

        The thought originated in ERL vs ER.

        I know of the Pi PoE Hat - which may suit your needs

        https://www.pi-supply.com/product/pi-poe-switch-hat-power-over-ethernet-for-raspberry-pi/

        https://www.pi-supply.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/919A2176-Copy.jpg

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco
          last edited by

          If I give you a dollar, would you learn how to spell "Raspberry"? 😉

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @RojoLoco
            last edited by

            @RojoLoco said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

            If I give you a dollar, would you learn how to spell "Raspberry"? 😉

            Probably not, I'm horrible at spelling words in English, and it's the only language I speak well 😛

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @gjacobse
              last edited by

              @gjacobse said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

              @travisdh1 said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

              I've got an EdgeRouter X SFP at home, and a nice chunk of some bonus money on an Amazon gift card. Wondered if anyone's used those PoE to USB adapters and if you'd recommend on over another? Thinking about powering a Rasspberri Pi through it for now.

              The thought originated in ERL vs ER.

              I know of the Pi PoE Hat - which may suit your needs

              https://www.pi-supply.com/product/pi-poe-switch-hat-power-over-ethernet-for-raspberry-pi/

              https://www.pi-supply.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/919A2176-Copy.jpg

              That's neat, but a generic usb power would be even more useful for me. I've got a number of different "development" boards like the rPi3, it's just that the rPi is the largest power draw. Guess I should have specified, sorry.

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              • NerdyDadN
                NerdyDad
                last edited by

                Something like this?

                https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Active-PoE-Splitter-Power-Over-Ethernet-48V-to-5V-2-4A-Micro-USB-4-Raspberry-Pi/32677165482.html?source={ifdyn:dyn}{ifpla:pla}{ifdbm:DBM&albch=DID}&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=708-803-3821&isdl=y&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&albcp=653153647&albag=34728528644&slnk=&trgt=75384829977&plac=&crea=en32677165482&netw=g&device=c&mtctp=&gclid=CPKWypu_ldICFQVbfgodDNYAxg

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                • NerdyDadN
                  NerdyDad
                  last edited by

                  Same thing on ebay for cheaper

                  http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/162305074483?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @NerdyDad
                    last edited by

                    @NerdyDad Yep, exactly like that. I'm going to grab it on Amazon even tho it's a little more just because I have that gift card I can use.

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                    • gjacobseG
                      gjacobse
                      last edited by

                      http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/bRoAAOSw-0xYgDup/$_35.JPG?set_id=880000500F

                      Ah okay,.. yea that is a bit different, I had seen those as well, but wasn't the first thing that came to mind at the time.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        I'm pretty ure the ER-X is passive POE, not standard IEEE 802.3af and 802.3at

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                          I'm pretty ure the ER-X is passive POE, not standard IEEE 802.3af and 802.3at

                          It is, I have a different model. Actually, I think it's an ER-POE, not ER-X-SFP like I said in the first post, doh.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @travisdh1
                            last edited by

                            @travisdh1 said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                            @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                            I'm pretty ure the ER-X is passive POE, not standard IEEE 802.3af and 802.3at

                            It is, I have a different model. Actually, I think it's an ER-POE, not ER-X-SFP like I said in the first post, doh.

                            Big difference 🙂

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                              @travisdh1 said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                              @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                              I'm pretty ure the ER-X is passive POE, not standard IEEE 802.3af and 802.3at

                              It is, I have a different model. Actually, I think it's an ER-POE, not ER-X-SFP like I said in the first post, doh.

                              Big difference 🙂

                              Yep, kinda like the Mississippi River in Louisiana is small kinda difference.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @travisdh1
                                last edited by

                                @travisdh1 said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                @travisdh1 said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                I'm pretty ure the ER-X is passive POE, not standard IEEE 802.3af and 802.3at

                                It is, I have a different model. Actually, I think it's an ER-POE, not ER-X-SFP like I said in the first post, doh.

                                Big difference 🙂

                                Yep, kinda like the Mississippi River in Louisiana is small kinda difference.

                                I don't get the reference.

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                  @travisdh1 said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                  @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                  @travisdh1 said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                  @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                  I'm pretty ure the ER-X is passive POE, not standard IEEE 802.3af and 802.3at

                                  It is, I have a different model. Actually, I think it's an ER-POE, not ER-X-SFP like I said in the first post, doh.

                                  Big difference 🙂

                                  Yep, kinda like the Mississippi River in Louisiana is small kinda difference.

                                  I don't get the reference.

                                  Apparently I'm doing bad analogies, that river is absolutely huge. Kinda like the slight difference between the SFP and POE model routers.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                    last edited by

                                    @travisdh1 said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                    @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                    @travisdh1 said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                    @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                    I'm pretty ure the ER-X is passive POE, not standard IEEE 802.3af and 802.3at

                                    It is, I have a different model. Actually, I think it's an ER-POE, not ER-X-SFP like I said in the first post, doh.

                                    Big difference 🙂

                                    Yep, kinda like the Mississippi River in Louisiana is small kinda difference.

                                    It's small if you are from New York or Brazil.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                      I'm pretty ure the ER-X is passive POE, not standard IEEE 802.3af and 802.3at

                                      The ER-X is not PoE at all. It can draw power from a PoE injector, and it can pass through that PoE to eth4, but it does not provide PoE

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                        @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                        I'm pretty ure the ER-X is passive POE, not standard IEEE 802.3af and 802.3at

                                        The ER-X is not PoE at all. It can draw power from a PoE injector, and it can pass through that PoE to eth4, but it does not provide PoE

                                        Actually, sorry sir, you are mistaken. If you plug into the way, you do get POE out on the POE out port.
                                        at 13:20 into this video he shows it working. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SianDqAQaR0

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                          @JaredBusch said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                          @Dashrender said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                          I'm pretty ure the ER-X is passive POE, not standard IEEE 802.3af and 802.3at

                                          The ER-X is not PoE at all. It can draw power from a PoE injector, and it can pass through that PoE to eth4, but it does not provide PoE

                                          Actually, sorry sir, you are mistaken. If you plug into the way, you do get POE out on the POE out port.
                                          at 13:20 into this video he shows it working.

                                          I can show all kinds of things working that are not designed for such.

                                          The ER-X does not provide PoE. The ER-X is PoE passthrough.

                                          The ER-X-SFP provides PoE.

                                          http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/edgemax/EdgeRouter_X_DS.pdf

                                          As for you video. Basic math will tell you that trying to do what he showed will fry your shit. A UAP-AC-LITE has a maximum power draw of 24V @ 6.5W which comes to a raw 0.27A. To produce 0.27A at 24V, the 12V adapter will need to use somewhere around 0.5A. The ER-X also has a listed maximum draw of 5W which works out to 0.41A The power brick is listed at 0.5A and you have a total draw of around 0.9A.

                                          Just because someone on the internet plugs something in, and it works, does not mean it is a good idea to do so.

                                          As for why it actually works? Well Ubiquiti does provide PoE on the SFP model, and the boards are the same minus that add on. So they probably never thought to put in something to disable it.

                                          But when you burn your house down, it will not be their fault.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @JaredBusch said in PoE to USB for a Rasspberri Pi:

                                            As for you video. Basic math will tell you that trying to do what he showed will fry your shit.

                                            I agree that long term using the included power brick is probably a bad idea for the reasons you mentioned, the instructions, as shown in the video so specifically say, if you use a 12w brick, you can do 24V Passive POE on that port.

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