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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
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      @StuartJordan said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

      Many companies are apparently being hit, it's another form of ransomware doing it's rounds, I've always said NHS and Emergency systems should be private LAN only with no internet access.

      I wonder how much that that would protect a network so large.

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      • CloudKnightC
        CloudKnight @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

        @StuartJordan said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

        Many companies are apparently being hit, it's another form of ransomware doing it's rounds, I've always said NHS and Emergency systems should be private LAN only with no internet access.

        I wonder how much that that would protect a network so large.

        I think it would reduce risk a lot, obviously not 100% though.

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        • coliverC
          coliver
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          https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/05/an-nsa-derived-ransomware-worm-is-shutting-down-computers-worldwide/#p3

          Fun when you're superbug gets out and starts waging war on your allies.

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller @coliver
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            @coliver said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

            https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/05/an-nsa-derived-ransomware-worm-is-shutting-down-computers-worldwide/#p3

            Fun when you're superbug gets out and starts waging war on your allies.

            That's not entirely fair, it was stolen & weaponized differently

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @coliver
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              @coliver said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

              Fun when you're superbug gets out and starts waging war on your allies.

              I think you'll find that the NSA has no allies. They are universally the enemies of everyone.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                @MattSpeller said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                That's not entirely fair, it was stolen & weaponized differently...

                Said every dictator who ever deployed chemical weapons.

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                • CloudKnightC
                  CloudKnight
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                  the WannaCry ransomware was patched back on march the 14th by Microsoft, so If systems were updated this could of been prevented...this does stress how important security updates really are..

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                  • NerdyDadN
                    NerdyDad
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                    I didn't read the article, but do we know the environment that this happened in? Was it Windows, Linux, Unix?

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                    • CloudKnightC
                      CloudKnight @NerdyDad
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                      @NerdyDad said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                      I didn't read the article, but do we know the environment that this happened in? Was it Windows, Linux, Unix?

                      Pretty much all NHS machines are windows based.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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                        @NerdyDad said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                        I didn't read the article, but do we know the environment that this happened in? Was it Windows, Linux, Unix?

                        NHS is famous for being very antiquated and non-technical. Literally used in textbooks as one of the most famous "can't do IT projects to save their life (or anyone's)" examples. Likely still on XP. The ransomware is believed to have gotten in because they weren't patching. NHS is like everything that can go wrong with IT in a large organization.

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                        • Deleted74295D
                          Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                          I think you'll find that the NSA has no allies. They are universally the enemies of everyone.

                          Who pays for the show if they don't have at least 1 ally?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Deleted74295
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                            @Breffni-Potter said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                            @scottalanmiller said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                            I think you'll find that the NSA has no allies. They are universally the enemies of everyone.

                            Who pays for the show if they don't have at least 1 ally?

                            They pay for it themselves and blackmail everyone else to keep their operations going.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                              @Breffni-Potter said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                              @scottalanmiller said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                              I think you'll find that the NSA has no allies. They are universally the enemies of everyone.

                              Who pays for the show if they don't have at least 1 ally?

                              Those who live in fear of them. It takes no allies to make money. Who is the mafia's ally that pays them? No one.

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                              • Deleted74295D
                                Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                                @Breffni-Potter said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                                @scottalanmiller said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                                I think you'll find that the NSA has no allies. They are universally the enemies of everyone.

                                Who pays for the show if they don't have at least 1 ally?

                                Those who live in fear of them. It takes no allies to make money. Who is the mafia's ally that pays them? No one.

                                How did Trump build all those buildings in New York again...

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                                  @Breffni-Potter said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                                  @Breffni-Potter said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in NHS England - Cyber-ouch...:

                                  I think you'll find that the NSA has no allies. They are universally the enemies of everyone.

                                  Who pays for the show if they don't have at least 1 ally?

                                  Those who live in fear of them. It takes no allies to make money. Who is the mafia's ally that pays them? No one.

                                  How did Trump build all those buildings in New York again...

                                  Debt

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller both foreign and domestic.

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                                    • nadnerBN
                                      nadnerB
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                                      Being the NSA that's the originating issue here, does that mean MS can sue the crap out of them for breech of EULA?
                                      or will the NSA have their own "special" licensing agreement?

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce
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                                        The comments on this article are ridiculous: https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2017/05/how-to-protect-yourself-against-wannacry/?utm_source=list&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=051417

                                        If your excuse is that your software only supports Windows XP, then it's time to find a new vendor that supports OSs from the present decade.

                                        Easier said than done. I know... but rather that than people dieing.

                                        The organization I work for has some proprietary (PROM or EPROM i think) programming software (forget exactly what it is) that requires a specific processor (due to the timing/frequency of the CPU crystal) that can't run anything greater than 98.. but that computer is off the network. There are ways...

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