Star Trek Discovery
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@JaredBusch said in Star Trek Discovery:
@hobbit666 said in Star Trek Discovery:
@hobbit666 said in Star Trek Discovery:
When's it set? Before after TNG? Voyager?
It ok just seen the preview trailer and it say 10 years before kirk
Yes, but by going before TOS, they severely restrict the options available IMO.
I would have to think you are making the assumption that they care about the back story in any way.
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@DustinB3403 said in Star Trek Discovery:
@JaredBusch said in Star Trek Discovery:
@hobbit666 said in Star Trek Discovery:
@hobbit666 said in Star Trek Discovery:
When's it set? Before after TNG? Voyager?
It ok just seen the preview trailer and it say 10 years before kirk
Yes, but by going before TOS, they severely restrict the options available IMO.
I would have to think you are making the assumption that they care about the back story in any way.
- Well, I am assuming they care about profit.
- If they care about profit, then then have to attracted viewers.
- A large portion of the initial viewer base will be existing fans of the established universe.
- To attract viewers, they will have to tell a good story.
- If it is a good story, but does not make enough sense in context of the established universe, then existing fans will not be able to suspend their disbelief.
- Without suspension of disbelief, the enjoyment drops.
- Without enjoyment, viewership drops.
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and continuting on, by putting this series before TOS (The Original Series), there is so much that is not available because it is only discovered later.
Yeah, I get that there is the entire Alpha quadrant available for exploration and very little has been truly explored on screen.
But look at the trailer. What did they do? Vulcans and Klingons.
Of course they did because they want to bring in the existing fanbase.
But we are here with constraints on what can happen with the Klingons and Vulcans because in only 10 years, everything is known.
You cannot bring in any of the big races for later without a time travel gimmick. It would be fine for a single episode or two (assuming we get multiple years of the show). But not as a central premise. Time travel like that is just too gimmicky for long term show survival.
Now, 10 years before TOS is good in that all the technology is there, unlike what happened with Enterprise. They were stuck trying to show horn too much shit into that that show. So much so that it made no sense.
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I am a HUGE Star Trek, and not just because I am 6'5" tall. I can throw down with anyone on Star Trek knowledge, and usually leave them in awe. This series was suppose to start this January. However it has been pushed back 3 or 4 times now. It was originally going to be placed in the Star Trek timeline after Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country but before STTNG. There has been infighting between the producers, directors, etc. After the January launch delayed, it was then March. After that it got pushed back to summer. Then this is the first I heard about the fall release date.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/star-trek-discovery-stuck-in-spacedock/
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Why couldn't they have pushed it back even further? To something like the start of the federation or figuring out the warp drive / interstellar travel? That could have pushed them back 100 years and given them plenty of room to grow into the Star Trek universe that we know.
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@NerdyDad said in Star Trek Discovery:
Why couldn't they have pushed it back even further? To something like the start of the federation or figuring out the warp drive / interstellar travel? That could have pushed them back 100 years and given them plenty of room to grow into the Star Trek universe that we know.
Isn't that what Enterprise has already done?
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@scottalanmiller said in Star Trek Discovery:
@NerdyDad said in Star Trek Discovery:
Why couldn't they have pushed it back even further? To something like the start of the federation or figuring out the warp drive / interstellar travel? That could have pushed them back 100 years and given them plenty of room to grow into the Star Trek universe that we know.
Isn't that what Enterprise has already done?
Didn't watch Enterprise. Guess I have more homework to do.
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@scottalanmiller you are correct. Enterprise, which I really liked for so many reasons ended with the formation of the Federation. I really didn't like the last episode.
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@PenguinWrangler said in Star Trek Discovery:
@scottalanmiller you are correct. Enterprise, which I really liked for so many reasons ended with the formation of the Federation. I really didn't like the last episode.
I'm just a couple episodes into it. Too early to really be into it yet.
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@scottalanmiller said in Star Trek Discovery:
@PenguinWrangler said in Star Trek Discovery:
@scottalanmiller you are correct. Enterprise, which I really liked for so many reasons ended with the formation of the Federation. I really didn't like the last episode.
I'm just a couple episodes into it. Too early to really be into it yet.
I could not finish watching the show because of the Temporal Cold War crap. Just too much gimmick.
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@PenguinWrangler said in Star Trek Discovery:
It was originally going to be placed in the Star Trek timeline after Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country but before STTNG.
That would have been a really good place for a show in the middle of the time line. You have almost everything except the Borg available.
Even the Cardassians and the Bajoran (as an enslaved race).
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@JaredBusch said in Star Trek Discovery:
@scottalanmiller said in Star Trek Discovery:
@PenguinWrangler said in Star Trek Discovery:
@scottalanmiller you are correct. Enterprise, which I really liked for so many reasons ended with the formation of the Federation. I really didn't like the last episode.
I'm just a couple episodes into it. Too early to really be into it yet.
I could not finish watching the show because of the Temporal Cold War crap. Just too much gimmick.
That's too bad.
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@scottalanmiller said in Star Trek Discovery:
@JaredBusch said in Star Trek Discovery:
@scottalanmiller said in Star Trek Discovery:
@PenguinWrangler said in Star Trek Discovery:
@scottalanmiller you are correct. Enterprise, which I really liked for so many reasons ended with the formation of the Federation. I really didn't like the last episode.
I'm just a couple episodes into it. Too early to really be into it yet.
I could not finish watching the show because of the Temporal Cold War crap. Just too much gimmick.
That's too bad.
I siltl want to finish watching it, just low on my list.
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@scottalanmiller Hang in there. It really starts picking up about half way through the 1st season. The last episode was just a little over the top imho.
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@JaredBusch That is a good example of a good idea implemented poorly, in my opinion. There was potential there but it just didn't play out well with how they wrote it.
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@PenguinWrangler said in Star Trek Discovery:
@scottalanmiller Hang in there. It really starts picking up about half way through the 1st season. The last episode was just a little over the top imho.
That was me not Scott. And I made it to the beginning of Season 3.
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@JaredBusch said in Star Trek Discovery:
@PenguinWrangler said in Star Trek Discovery:
@scottalanmiller Hang in there. It really starts picking up about half way through the 1st season. The last episode was just a little over the top imho.
That was me not Scott. And I made it to the beginning of Season 3.
DOH!
