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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

      Of all things, that's pretty surprising to be put into Minimal.

      I nuked my install and did it again to make sure that I installed Minimal too.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        I'm not happy that that is included. There are a lot of things that can be argued as being applicable to minimal installations, but Cockpit?

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates
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          I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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            @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

            I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

            All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

            Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

              @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

              I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

              All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

              Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

              Ya the virt-builder images are GPG signed and prebuilt for KVM. They have the QEMU guest agent installed and will generate a random root password each time you create a disk. I haven't grabbed a server image from the Fedora site in a while.

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @stacksofplates
                last edited by travisdh1

                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

                All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

                Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

                Ya the virt-builder images are GPG signed and prebuilt for KVM. They have the QEMU guest agent installed and will generate a random root password each time you create a disk. I haven't grabbed a server image from the Fedora site in a while.

                Do you remember where you found that guest image? I'd like to spin some up.

                Edit: I think I found a source: https://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/obtain-images.html

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by JaredBusch

                  After playing with my install more, I do not think it installed minimal even though I selected it to do so.

                  because nano and rsync were already installed.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                    After playing with my install more, I do not think it installed minimal even though I selected it to do so.

                    because nano and rsync were already installed.

                    Maybe it is as simple as the minimal selector is broken?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                      @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                      After playing with my install more, I do not think it installed minimal even though I selected it to do so.

                      because nano and rsync were already installed.

                      Maybe it is as simple as the minimal selector is broken?

                      Probably

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @travisdh1
                        last edited by

                        @travisdh1 said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                        @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                        @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                        @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                        I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

                        All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

                        Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

                        Ya the virt-builder images are GPG signed and prebuilt for KVM. They have the QEMU guest agent installed and will generate a random root password each time you create a disk. I haven't grabbed a server image from the Fedora site in a while.

                        Do you remember where you found that guest image? I'd like to spin some up.

                        Edit: I think I found a source: https://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/obtain-images.html

                        It pulls them in automatically. Just run virt-builder fedora-25 and add whatever options after. I usually just do something like this:

                        virt-builder fedora-25 --format qcow2 --hostname changeme --run-command 'useradd ansible && echo "ansible     ALL=(ALL)  NOPASSWD:ALL" > /etc/sudoers.d/ansible' --install '<package that I can't remember right now>' --selinux-relabel

                        Once it's done building I create the VM using that disk and let it spin up, and then shut it down. Then I run:

                        virt-sysprep -a template.qcow2 --ssh-inject ansible:file:/path/to/pub_key

                        Then I can just clone it and apply all of my policies with Ansible.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates
                          last edited by stacksofplates

                          These are super minimal. Like to get Ansible to be able to control firewalld I have to add python-firewall and python3-firewall as dependencies.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @stacksofplates
                            last edited by stacksofplates

                            @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                            @travisdh1 said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                            @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                            @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                            @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                            I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

                            All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

                            Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

                            Ya the virt-builder images are GPG signed and prebuilt for KVM. They have the QEMU guest agent installed and will generate a random root password each time you create a disk. I haven't grabbed a server image from the Fedora site in a while.

                            Do you remember where you found that guest image? I'd like to spin some up.

                            Edit: I think I found a source: https://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/obtain-images.html

                            It pulls them in automatically. Just run virt-builder fedora-25 and add whatever options after. I usually just do something like this:

                            virt-builder fedora-25 --format qcow2 --hostname changeme --run-command 'useradd ansible && echo "ansible     ALL=(ALL)  NOPASSWD:ALL" > /etc/sudoers.d/ansible' --install '<package that I can't remember right now>' --selinux-relabel

                            Once it's done building I create the VM using that disk and let it spin up, and then shut it down. Then I run:

                            virt-sysprep -a template.qcow2 --ssh-inject ansible:file:/path/to/pub_key

                            Then I can just clone it and apply all of my policies with Ansible.

                            Looked when I got home. The package I couldn't remember is python, libselinux-python, and qemu-guest-agent. The image also doesnt have tar or unzip installed.

                            I lied about the guest agent. It's not installed by default but the console is available through ttyS0 by default which is nice.

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                            • RomoR
                              Romo @stacksofplates
                              last edited by

                              @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                              @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                              @travisdh1 said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                              @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                              @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                              @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                              I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

                              All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

                              Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

                              Ya the virt-builder images are GPG signed and prebuilt for KVM. They have the QEMU guest agent installed and will generate a random root password each time you create a disk. I haven't grabbed a server image from the Fedora site in a while.

                              Do you remember where you found that guest image? I'd like to spin some up.

                              Edit: I think I found a source: https://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/obtain-images.html

                              It pulls them in automatically. Just run virt-builder fedora-25 and add whatever options after. I usually just do something like this:

                              virt-builder fedora-25 --format qcow2 --hostname changeme --run-command 'useradd ansible && echo "ansible     ALL=(ALL)  NOPASSWD:ALL" > /etc/sudoers.d/ansible' --install '<package that I can't remember right now>' --selinux-relabel

                              Once it's done building I create the VM using that disk and let it spin up, and then shut it down. Then I run:

                              virt-sysprep -a template.qcow2 --ssh-inject ansible:file:/path/to/pub_key

                              Then I can just clone it and apply all of my policies with Ansible.

                              Looked when I got home. The package I couldn't remember is python, libselinux-python, and qemu-guest-agent. The image also doesnt have tar or unzip installed.

                              I lied about the guest agent. It's not installed by default but the console is available through ttyS0 by default which is nice.

                              @stacksofplates Why inject the ssh-keys with virt-sysprep and not directly with virt-builder?

                              I am getting locale errors when using vms created with virt-builder any idea how to fix this?
                              0_1496448261236_locale_errrors.png

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @Romo
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                                @Romo said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                @travisdh1 said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

                                All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

                                Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

                                Ya the virt-builder images are GPG signed and prebuilt for KVM. They have the QEMU guest agent installed and will generate a random root password each time you create a disk. I haven't grabbed a server image from the Fedora site in a while.

                                Do you remember where you found that guest image? I'd like to spin some up.

                                Edit: I think I found a source: https://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/obtain-images.html

                                It pulls them in automatically. Just run virt-builder fedora-25 and add whatever options after. I usually just do something like this:

                                virt-builder fedora-25 --format qcow2 --hostname changeme --run-command 'useradd ansible && echo "ansible     ALL=(ALL)  NOPASSWD:ALL" > /etc/sudoers.d/ansible' --install '<package that I can't remember right now>' --selinux-relabel

                                Once it's done building I create the VM using that disk and let it spin up, and then shut it down. Then I run:

                                virt-sysprep -a template.qcow2 --ssh-inject ansible:file:/path/to/pub_key

                                Then I can just clone it and apply all of my policies with Ansible.

                                Looked when I got home. The package I couldn't remember is python, libselinux-python, and qemu-guest-agent. The image also doesnt have tar or unzip installed.

                                I lied about the guest agent. It's not installed by default but the console is available through ttyS0 by default which is nice.

                                @stacksofplates Why inject the ssh-keys with virt-sysprep and not directly with virt-builder?

                                I am getting locale errors when using vms created with virt-builder any idea how to fix this?
                                0_1496448261236_locale_errrors.png

                                The ansible user isn't in there yet until you spin up the VM so I have to inject it afterward. If I was just using root it would work.

                                I logged into the console once and I did notice that but it doesn't seem to affect anything. I haven't used the console since then. I think it sets that to the default locale but it isn't there. I don't think it will cause any issues, but I could be wrong.

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                                • black3dynamiteB
                                  black3dynamite @stacksofplates
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                                  @stacksofplates
                                  not sure about unzip but tar is also not installed on the minimal install too.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce
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                                    Yeah I tried Fedora 26 Beta (minimal install via netinst) and Cockpit is up and running by default.

                                    It's supposed to be like that by default according to these two sites:

                                    http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CockpitManagementConsole#Summary

                                    http://cockpit-project.org/running.html

                                    I think it's rather handy, and it seems easier to turn it off if it's not needed, than to turn it on if it is.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by

                                      @Tim_G yeah, I had no objection to it running in a minimal install, but it was surprising to see.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        @Tim_G said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                        Yeah I tried Fedora 26 Beta (minimal install via netinst) and Cockpit is up and running by default.

                                        It's supposed to be like that by default according to these two sites:

                                        http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CockpitManagementConsole#Summary

                                        http://cockpit-project.org/running.html

                                        I think it's rather handy, and it seems easier to turn it off if it's not needed, than to turn it on if it is.

                                        I like it in non-DevOp scenarios. It's basically the same security profile as SSH, so no real concerns when SSH is also exposed.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                          @Tim_G said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                          Yeah I tried Fedora 26 Beta (minimal install via netinst) and Cockpit is up and running by default.

                                          It's supposed to be like that by default according to these two sites:

                                          http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CockpitManagementConsole#Summary

                                          http://cockpit-project.org/running.html

                                          I think it's rather handy, and it seems easier to turn it off if it's not needed, than to turn it on if it is.

                                          I like it in non-DevOp scenarios. It's basically the same security profile as SSH, so no real concerns when SSH is also exposed.

                                          Yup. Only thing I'd change, is the ability to use your own SSL cert during the install.

                                          They could stick that button under the set password button.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce
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                                            Just did a minimal install... no working Cockpit upon first boot. Gonna try again. (this was from Netinst.iso)

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