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    • JoelJ
      Joel
      last edited by

      Hi Guys
      I've always struggled with licensing and getting my head around it.
      Anyways, we have a client who are not for profit. They have a RDS server of which 15 or so users log onto. How/Where can I purchase RDS cals and do not for profit companies get a charity discount?
      Thanks

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        TechSoup and certain types of non-profits do indeed get a discount.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          If you don't qualify for the discount, someone like CDW is where you buy MS licenses.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            Yep, techsoup is the place most people go to.

            http://www.techsoup.org/microsoft

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              Out of curiosity what software systems are in place that you need microsoft?

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              • DanpD
                Danp
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                Check out TechSoup.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Joel
                  last edited by

                  @joel said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:

                  I've always struggled with licensing and getting my head around it.

                  Which part is an issue here?

                  For RDS with 15 users you need...

                  • Windows Server Licensing
                  • Windows RDS Server Licensing
                  • 15 Windows Server CALs
                  • 15 RDS CALs

                  Assuming that you use standard user-based CALs rather than device CALs which would make things a bit more complex.

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                  • bigbearB
                    bigbear
                    last edited by

                    Probably RDS lol. Linux really needs feature parity with RDSH.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:

                      @joel said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:

                      I've always struggled with licensing and getting my head around it.

                      Which part is an issue here?

                      For RDS with 15 users you need...

                      The struggle to pay for licensing has always been my issue. . . like WHY?!

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                        @bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:

                        Probably RDS lol. Linux really needs feature parity with RDSH.

                        I had in mind to post a thread about "why is Linux so bad at this." LOL

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          A big piece of it is likely that with Linux, the need for an RDS style server is SO much lower. So there is very little pressure to do something like this. And without a singular standard desktop environment like Windows, it's a more complex target. So the combination makes Linux terminal servers unpopular.

                          But given that Linux doesn't have the end node licensing costs and thin clients often cost more than fat clients it's very rare that you want to have Linux only available remotely.

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                          • bigbearB
                            bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller @DustinB3403 i just can't imagine living without it. Of course I'm a nomad now, and managing my sales team on it briefly was pretty awesome.

                            NoMachine was sort of a Linux equivalent. It didn't work as well and the cost for licensing was more than Microsoft.

                            I'm sure if I had a work area and desktop I'd be back to Linux.

                            The 2016 RDSH stuff is definitely how I would deploy a small office about the size OP is discussing.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                              @bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:

                              @scottalanmiller @DustinB3403 i just can't imagine living without it. Of course I'm a nomad now, and managing my sales team on it briefly was pretty awesome.

                              NoMachine was sort of a Linux equivalent. It didn't work as well and the cost for licensing was more than Microsoft.

                              I'm sure if I had a work area and desktop I'd be back to Linux.

                              The 2016 RDSH stuff is definitely how I would deploy a small office about the size OP is discussing.

                              What device are you working from in order to access your RDSH machine, though?

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                              • bigbearB
                                bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller there were some great projects going back almost 20 years that I used to give my family their own computers, powered by a used compaq server I got from
                                Computerfest.

                                I also briefly managed winframe and metaframe around 2001 to 2003 in a large corporate environment with 30,000 global users. Back then our whole data center was downtown in one city. Everyone who got over from lucent vpn and att global dialed to Citrix was extremely delighted. We deployed SAP through it.

                                If you had something like Deepin, all open source apps and the ability to deliver virtual desktops. That would be a big win for small businesses.

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                                • JoelJ
                                  Joel @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller Thanks all... yeah I kinda get it, but I get confused when it comes to Volume licenses and for some reason just always found licenses a little confusing!!

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                                  • bigbearB
                                    bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller wherever I got there are macs and windows machines.

                                    Even linux client to Linux host sucks on the remote access side. I'm doing photoshop today in my Vultr rdsh session. Just because if I leave the has and have to go to my old office I can pick up where I left off.

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                                    • bigbearB
                                      bigbear @Joel
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                                      @joel you using o365 for office? What are your thin clients? Are you deploying in he cloud.

                                      I went through my own deployment a couple months back, happy to help. Not sure if your are doing rdsh or RDS. I'd highly recommend rdsh though.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                                        @bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:

                                        @scottalanmiller wherever I got there are macs and windows machines.

                                        Even linux client to Linux host sucks on the remote access side. I'm doing photoshop today in my Vultr rdsh session. Just because if I leave the has and have to go to my old office I can pick up where I left off.

                                        Oh, you don't even have a laptop of your own, you are just borrowing other people's workstations?

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                                        • ntozierN
                                          ntozier
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                                          I'm a little late to this conversation...

                                          If they are a non-profit (501c3) then they can go through TechSoup and get great pricing.

                                          If they are a not for profit, I do not think that they qualify for Tech Soup.

                                          We use TechSoup for my primary job and have for many years. 🙂

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                                          • bigbearB
                                            bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller my MacBook Pro went out last year and I haven't taken to Apple Store for repair. But moreover it was mostly docked at work anyway, where is spent most of my time. When I came home I only used my iPhone.

                                            When I started with RDSH I just got hooked fast.

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