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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by JaredBusch

      So what is the big difference between the Intel CPUs?

      I did a little research and I am not see a big difference between the i5 7600 and i7 7700

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      • Reid CooperR
        Reid Cooper
        last edited by

        Higher clock speed, more cache.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Reid Cooper
          last edited by

          @reid-cooper said in Intel CPU question:

          Higher clock speed, more cache.

          Right, but the performance specs I am seeing are not very different

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
            last edited by

            Passmark shows the i7 at 10803 and the i5 at 8889. But as I rarely care abotu this, I do not know what their benchmark value even means.
            https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-7600+%40+3.50GHz
            https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-7700+%40+3.60GHz

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
              last edited by JaredBusch

              This show much faster mulit-core speed, but how many user processes are multi-core?

              http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600/3887vs3890

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:

                This show much faster mulit-core speed, but how many user processes are multi-core?

                http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600/3887vs3890

                A lot, actually. It's more common than you'd think.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  Basically I wanna get info to decide if $170 matters for a 5+ year purchase or not.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:

                    Basically I wanna get info to decide if $170 matters for a 5+ year purchase or not.

                    Not likely, $170 is a lot.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:

                      @jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:

                      Basically I wanna get info to decide if $170 matters for a 5+ year purchase or not.

                      Not likely, $170 is a lot.

                      That is my initial thought, except the Dells this client bought in 2013 were i7. So I have user perception to deal with.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:

                        @jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:

                        Basically I wanna get info to decide if $170 matters for a 5+ year purchase or not.

                        Not likely, $170 is a lot.

                        That is my initial thought, except the Dells this client bought in 2013 were i7. So I have user perception to deal with.

                        Just don't tell them šŸ˜‰

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Give them bench scores of the old versus the new. Don't tell them what the models are.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:

                            Give them bench scores of the old versus the new. Don't tell them what the models are.

                            That works until someone demands to know.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @dashrender said in Intel CPU question:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:

                              Give them bench scores of the old versus the new. Don't tell them what the models are.

                              That works until someone demands to know.

                              unless it is the owner just don't tell them.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in Intel CPU question:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Intel CPU question:

                                Give them bench scores of the old versus the new. Don't tell them what the models are.

                                That works until someone demands to know.

                                The decision maker at this client is decently well versed in understanding IT terminology.

                                I will probably let him decide and just present both and say the benchmarks do not really support the extra cost.

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                                • Reid CooperR
                                  Reid Cooper
                                  last edited by

                                  Even an i5 is typically overkill today. What kind of workloads will these run?

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @Reid Cooper
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    @reid-cooper said in Intel CPU question:

                                    Even an i5 is typically overkill today. What kind of workloads will these run?

                                    One of them does CAD, the rest will barely be taxed day to day. My recommendation was not to upgrade.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      So this is what I am sending off to my preferred VAR.

                                      Desktops: Quantity 9
                                      Option A:
                                      HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Tower
                                      Windows 10 Pro
                                      Intel Core i5 7600
                                      16GB RAM
                                      256 GB SSD
                                      Intel 8265 802.11 ac with Bluetooth 4.2
                                      No optical drive
                                      HP Wireless Business Slim Keyboard and Mouse

                                      Option B:
                                      HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Tower
                                      Windows 10 Pro
                                      Intel Core i7 7700
                                      16GB RAM
                                      256 GB SSD
                                      Intel 8265 802.11 ac with Bluetooth 4.2
                                      No optical drive
                                      HP Wireless Business Slim Keyboard and Mouse

                                      For the memory in both of these desktop options, if it is more cost effective to get 8GB and an additional 8GB separate, please quote it as such.

                                      Laptop: Quantity 1
                                      Make it the same as the one just ordered for IPMA

                                      Monitors: Quantity 13
                                      Option A:
                                      HP V273a

                                      Option B:
                                      HP 27sv

                                      Similar model 27ā€ monitors are acceptable. These were pulled from HP’s website.
                                      Display port to HDMI needed per monitor as the EliteDesk has 2 Display Ports and both of these monitors have HDMI

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                                      • wrx7mW
                                        wrx7m
                                        last edited by

                                        Is 16GB of RAM necessary for the day-to-day people? Seems like overkill.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                                          last edited by

                                          @wrx7m said in Intel CPU question:

                                          Is 16GB of RAM necessary for the day-to-day people? Seems like overkill.

                                          Generally the alternative is 8GB, which can easily be too little.

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                                          • wrx7mW
                                            wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller I have been giving out 8 for several years now. Maybe it is time to check my users' utilization. I am sure that some people could benefit from more but I would be surprised if most were above 60%.

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