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    What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?

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    • Emad RE
      Emad R @coliver
      last edited by Emad R

      @coliver said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

      @dafyre said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

      I use Virt-Manager 99% of the time. I've heard that Kimichi is good as well, but haven't set it up yet.

      It's ok. Not nearly as powerful as the CLI or Virt-manager. I'm curious if there is a cockpit console/manager out there.

      How To Install Cockpit Machines on CentOS 7

      yum -y update
      yum install cockpit
      yum install cockpit-machines			# Optional for KVM Managing
      
      systemctl start cockpit
      systemctl enable cockpit.socket
      
      firewall-cmd --permanent --zone=public --add-service=cockpit
      firewall-cmd --reload
      
      https://server-ip:9090
      
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      • olivierO
        olivier
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        Do you know any valid API that can be called remotely and doing also network and storage operations?

        I can't figure why I can't find this.

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        • hobbit666H
          hobbit666
          last edited by

          Is there a Windows GUI to manage a KVM set-up?
          As I was going to have a play when I get a spare server back in the "server room"

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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            @hobbit666 said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

            Is there a Windows GUI to manage a KVM set-up?
            As I was going to have a play when I get a spare server back in the "server room"

            You don't want that. A Windows GUI is the worst thing ever, even for Windows work. You want a web GUI, and that's what Cockpit is. A Windows GUI would be purely a negative.

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            • hobbit666H
              hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller Good to know

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @hobbit666
                last edited by

                @hobbit666 said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

                @scottalanmiller Good to know

                Same would go for Linux, native GUIs are almost always a bad thing.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce
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                  I've found that the very best way to manage your KVM virtual machines is to SSH into the KVM hypervisor and use the virsh command. Nothing beats that.

                  If you need a GUI, I've found Virt-Manager to be the next best.

                  If you would like a whole management interface GUI that is similar to Microsoft's System Center Virtual Machine Manager, then you should look into oVirt. I'm currently doing some things with oVirt and I really like it.

                  As other's mentioned, the Kimchi-Project is an excellent way to manage your KVM server and VMs via HTML5 web interface. I've got a guide on my blog on how to set it up here: https://www.timothygruber.com/linux/fedora-26-kvm-html5-remote-access-with-web-console-via-kimchi-part-1/

                  There is also cockpit-machines, a part of Cockpit, a web interface, but that only allows you to reboot/shutdown/on/off your virtual machines, and also allows you to view your VMs through your browser.

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                  • olivierO
                    olivier
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                    I'm not sure to get Kimchi architecture. Do you need to install it on each node? There is no "pool" concept in KVM world?

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee
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                      @olivier Have you looked at oVirt + Gluster https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2017/04/up-and-running-with-ovirt-4.1-and-gluster-storage/

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @olivier
                        last edited by

                        @olivier said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

                        I'm not sure to get Kimchi architecture. Do you need to install it on each node? There is no "pool" concept in KVM world?

                        Nope. It can manage several different KVM servers via a single VM.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee
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                          @Tim_G I need to take 4.2 for a spin https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2017/11/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0-beta/

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @FATeknollogee
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                            @fateknollogee said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

                            @Tim_G I need to take 4.2 for a spin https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2017/11/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0-beta/

                            Let me know how it goes, I haven't tried 4.2 yet.

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee
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                              @Tim_G Will Kimchi display vm info from multiple hosts in a single pane? (I assume it's 1:1)

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @FATeknollogee
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                                @fateknollogee said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

                                @Tim_G Will Kimchi display vm info from multiple hosts in a single pane? (I assume it's 1:1)

                                No it's per server basis. If it can, I'm not aware of it and haven't even had the thought to look or try.

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                                • olivierO
                                  olivier @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by

                                  @fateknollogee said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

                                  @olivier Have you looked at oVirt + Gluster https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2017/04/up-and-running-with-ovirt-4.1-and-gluster-storage/

                                  I'm not searching for a "complete" solution, I'm asking for an API to possibly use on top.

                                  Beyond that, oVirt is a but ugly in some ways (probably because there is not "complete" native stack for KVM 😕

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                                  • olivierO
                                    olivier @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by olivier

                                    @tim_g said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

                                    @fateknollogee said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

                                    @Tim_G Will Kimchi display vm info from multiple hosts in a single pane? (I assume it's 1:1)

                                    No it's per server basis. If it can, I'm not aware of it and haven't even had the thought to look or try.

                                    That's even worse than I assumed 😞

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @olivier
                                      last edited by

                                      @olivier said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

                                      I'm not searching for a "complete" solution, I'm asking for an API to possibly use on top.

                                      Beyond that, oVirt is a but ugly in some ways (probably because there is not "complete" native stack for KVM 😕

                                      I know you aren't looking for a complete solution.
                                      I thought you might look at oVirt, see how they are doing whatever they do & then you would do it "better"

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                                      • olivierO
                                        olivier
                                        last edited by olivier

                                        Within ALL people using KVM in the world, nobody took time to make a valid API that's not a Rube Goldberg machine? (OpenStack or so) I can't understand that.

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                                        • olivierO
                                          olivier @FATeknollogee
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                                          @fateknollogee said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

                                          @olivier said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

                                          I'm not searching for a "complete" solution, I'm asking for an API to possibly use on top.

                                          Beyond that, oVirt is a but ugly in some ways (probably because there is not "complete" native stack for KVM 😕

                                          I know you aren't looking for a complete solution.
                                          I thought you might look at oVirt, see how they are doing whatever they do & then you would do it "better"

                                          Last time I did, I had a headache and my eyes bleed for a week 😞

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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee @olivier
                                            last edited by FATeknollogee

                                            @olivier said in What is KVM Best Management Tools in 2017?:

                                            Within ALL people using KVM in the world, nobody took time to make a valid API that's not a Rube Goldberg machine? I can't understand that.

                                            I hear what you're saying about the lack of API, but there must be some reason KVM is kicking the crap out of XS...
                                            Nutanix, GCP, AWS, IBM....all using/moving/switching to KVM

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