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    • thanksajdotcomT
      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @ajstringham said:

      UNIX is more proprietary. Linux is basically Unix that a Norwegian named Linus Torvalds took and modified.

      UNIX is only an open standard. There is nothing proprietary whatsoever in UNIX.

      Linux is more than basically UNIX, it is UNIX. The creator of UNIX called it the reference implementation actually.

      Linus is Finnish. Finland has no relationship with Norway and isn't even Scandinavian.

      Ok, I couldn't remember if it was Norwegian or Finnish. And wow, okay. I had no idea Finland was not part of Scandinavia. That's news to me...

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      • thanksajdotcomT
        thanksajdotcom
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        @scottalanmiller I don't believe there is even a Mac Server OS, is there? And I mean Mac. Not something Linux pretending.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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          @ajstringham said:

          Understanding the history behind a lot of these things is good too. While practically no one (I hope) uses a token ring network model anymore....

          What about FCoTR

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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            @ajstringham said:

            @scottalanmiller I don't believe there is even a Mac Server OS, is there? And I mean Mac. Not something Linux pretending.

            Oddly there is. But no server hardware to deploy it on. There is a Mac Mini config that they designate as a server. Uses RAID 1.

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @ajstringham said:

              Understanding the history behind a lot of these things is good too. While practically no one (I hope) uses a token ring network model anymore....

              What about FCoTR

              Interesting...never heard of that before...

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                @ajstringham said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @ajstringham said:

                Understanding the history behind a lot of these things is good too. While practically no one (I hope) uses a token ring network model anymore....

                What about FCoTR

                Interesting...never heard of that before...

                Storage industry inside joke. 🙂

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                • KatieK
                  Katie @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller There used to be hardware for Mac OSX server - the XServe. The Fruit company quit with that in 2010.
                  You can read about it here.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    When I was at IBM in 2001 we were still in 4Mb/a token ring. It was horrible.

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @ajstringham said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @ajstringham said:

                      Understanding the history behind a lot of these things is good too. While practically no one (I hope) uses a token ring network model anymore....

                      What about FCoTR

                      Interesting...never heard of that before...

                      Storage industry inside joke. 🙂

                      Ok, so it's not real? Don't screw with me like this. I don't have the adequate understanding to differentiate between a joke and a fact at that level yet.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Katie
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                        @Katie said:

                        @scottalanmiller There used to be hardware for Mac OSX server - the XServe. The Fruit company quit with that in 2010.
                        You can read about it here.

                        It was always a weak offering. Dual proc but only three drive bays. The Mac Mini option is nearly as good.

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                        • thanksajdotcomT
                          thanksajdotcom
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                          @katie So does Apple use Windows Server to manage their computers or is it just a free-for-all at HQ?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Apple runs predominantly on RHEL. They use a bit of AIX too.

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                            • KatieK
                              Katie @thanksajdotcom
                              last edited by Katie

                              @ajstringham said:

                              @katie So does Apple use Windows Server to manage their computers or is it just a free-for-all at HQ?

                              I cant remember, since it's been about 7 years since I worked for them. I vaguely remember a mixed server environment. It's likely quite a bit different now.

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                              • thanksajdotcomT
                                thanksajdotcom @Katie
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                                @Katie said:

                                @ajstringham said:

                                @katie So does Apple use Windows Server to manage their computers or is it just a free-for-all at HQ?

                                I cant remember, since it's been about 7 years since I worked for them. I vaguely remember a mixed server environment. It's likely quite a bit different now.

                                I think that'd be pretty funny...

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                                • PSX_DefectorP
                                  PSX_Defector @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @ajstringham said:

                                  UNIX is more proprietary. Linux is basically Unix that a Norwegian named Linus Torvalds took and modified.

                                  UNIX is only an open standard. There is nothing proprietary whatsoever in UNIX.

                                  Bell Labs begs to differ.

                                  True System V UNIX is closed to the core. BSD is "open" but has tight control over the kernel. Linux is GNU open, so it's not proprietary at all.

                                  Linux is not UNIX, even if it looks and feels the same.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @PSX_Defector
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                                    @PSX_Defector said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @ajstringham said:

                                    UNIX is more proprietary. Linux is basically Unix that a Norwegian named Linus Torvalds took and modified.

                                    UNIX is only an open standard. There is nothing proprietary whatsoever in UNIX.

                                    Bell Labs begs to differ.

                                    True System V UNIX is closed to the core. BSD is "open" but has tight control over the kernel. Linux is GNU open, so it's not proprietary at all.

                                    Linux is not UNIX, even if it looks and feels the same.

                                    Bell sold UNIX long ago. And it was Dennis at Bell who made the statement.

                                    Bell's UNIX distro might be proprietary. But UNIX refers to the standard, not any implementation. UNIX is purely open. Any given implementation, a la AIX, may opt to be open or closed.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      System V wasn't closed either. Even though it was non-free it actually was sold as code originally.

                                      But don't mix UNIX with System V. They are not the same thing. System V is UNIX and implements the open ABI. But UNIX is not System V.

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                                      • DuffneyD
                                        Duffney
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                                        If your goal is not to deal with customers, I'm assuming that dealing with users is out of the question as well. In that case do not go into a support role, such as system admin, network admin, and service desk. You'll want to specialize right away into something you could become an engineer for. DBA, storage, programming, web design, engineering of some kind.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Web design almost always has customers. Rarely does it face internal IT, normally it faces end users.

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                                          • NaraN
                                            Nara
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                                            Rather than focusing on certs right off the bat, immerse yourself in different areas of IT. When you find the area(s) that interest you, you'll just know it. From there, you can plan your career path.

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