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    The Myth of Security is Layers

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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @Mike Davis
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      @mike-davis said in The Myth of Security is Layers:

      I see what you're saying. What's the alternative then? How do you explain to a non technical client you need a firewall at the gateway and a firewall on the computer?

      Has nothing to do with layers. They serve completely different functions.

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      • Mike DavisM
        Mike Davis @Obsolesce
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        @tim_g said in The Myth of Security is Layers:

        Has nothing to do with layers. They serve completely different functions.

        Correct. What analogy would you use to talk to a non technical person about all the things we do in the name of security?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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          @mike-davis said in The Myth of Security is Layers:

          I see what you're saying. What's the alternative then? How do you explain to a non technical client you need a firewall at the gateway and a firewall on the computer?

          Well ideally you don't explain technical things to non-technical people, that's why you are there, to do the tech pieces. Any need to explain tech to people who don't know tech means the business has failed.

          Once in that failed position, the only real option is "because they aren't teh same thing and you need both, do you want to be secured or not"?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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            @mike-davis said in The Myth of Security is Layers:

            @tim_g said in The Myth of Security is Layers:

            Has nothing to do with layers. They serve completely different functions.

            Correct. What analogy would you use to talk to a non technical person about all the things we do in the name of security?

            Mention examples from non-tech perhaps.

            Like a store. Do you lock the door? Yes. Do you still hire a guard? Yes. Do you still have an alarm? Yes. Do you still call the cops if those things fail? Yes.

            If AV means you don't need a firewall, then doesn't a door lock mean you don't need a guard or cops or alarms? Same thing here... each does a different function. Just because you locked the front door doesn't mean that you can not also lock the safe or employ a guard or have an alarm.

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            • bigbearB
              bigbear
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              IDK, Has anyone here ever watched Mad Men?

              Its not a "wheel"... its a "time machine".

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              • bigbearB
                bigbear
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                Also @scottalanmiller I am not so sure you are right. The government has at least layers of firewall you have to hack down before you gain access...

                Youtube Video

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                • bigbearB
                  bigbear
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                  "Just cracked the out layer" and he is going to start an "Intrusion Inspection"

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                  • bigbearB
                    bigbear
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                    Also, how do I hook my Unifi to router to my Unifi overhead speaker so that Siri audible announces hackers and sounds an "alarm" sound effect.

                    This must be the future...

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @bigbear
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                      @bigbear said in The Myth of Security is Layers:

                      Also, how do I hook my Unifi to router to my Unifi overhead speaker so that Siri audible announces hackers and sounds an "alarm" sound effect.

                      This must be the future...

                      That's near the setting that changes colors along the network diagram lines to show how far along the hacker is.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @stacksofplates
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                        @stacksofplates said in The Myth of Security is Layers:

                        @bigbear said in The Myth of Security is Layers:

                        Also, how do I hook my Unifi to router to my Unifi overhead speaker so that Siri audible announces hackers and sounds an "alarm" sound effect.

                        This must be the future...

                        That's near the setting that changes colors along the network diagram lines to show how far along the hacker is.

                        I never understood that. Why not just turn off the system?

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn
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                          I have 8 blinky boxes people have to hack into to get to my stuff.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @brianlittlejohn
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                            @brianlittlejohn said in The Myth of Security is Layers:

                            I have 8 blinky boxes people have to hack into to get to my stuff.

                            Oh yeah? Well, I have... I have...

                            Yeah, I got nothing.

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