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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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      @dafyre said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

      Using multiple ranges can actually improve performance of the scans because it doesn't have to load 2million IP addresses.

      And you can put them on different schedules.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @WLS-ITGuy
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        @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

        @dafyre said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

        @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

        @dafyre said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

        Why split your phones off into their own subnet?

        That's the reason for the post. Is there a benefit?

        What size is your subnet now?

        /16

        Oh, that's a problem. No network should be that large. /20 maybe, /21 sure. But /16 is so many times bigger than that.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @WLS-ITGuy
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          @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

          @dafyre said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

          Why split your phones off into their own subnet?

          That's the reason for the post. Is there a benefit?

          Not to splitting, no. But to not scanning them, yes.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            What are you using the 🌶 scan to provide?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @WLS-ITGuy
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              @wls-itguy are you actually trying to make a separate subnet or just organize them in a section of you existing subnet?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                @jaredbusch said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                @wls-itguy are you actually trying to make a separate subnet or just organize them in a section of you existing subnet?

                I'd be all for a separate range. But see no point in what was mentioned here for a separate VLAN.

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                • WLS-ITGuyW
                  WLS-ITGuy @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                  What are you using the 🌶 scan to provide?

                  PC info and Network info. Ticketing as well. I know SodiumSuite does all that as well.

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                  • WLS-ITGuyW
                    WLS-ITGuy @JaredBusch
                    last edited by WLS-ITGuy

                    @jaredbusch said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                    @wls-itguy are you actually trying to make a separate subnet or just organize them in a section of you existing subnet?

                    If I could organize them within the subnet so 172.16.1.x/16 is the range and if all phones (FreePBX system) could get 172.16.5.x and all PCs goes 172.16.1.x range that would be great. I don't think that is possible though.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @WLS-ITGuy
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                      @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                      What are you using the 🌶 scan to provide?

                      PC info and Network info. Ticketing as well. I know SodiumSuite does all that as well.

                      It does indeed.

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                      • WLS-ITGuyW
                        WLS-ITGuy @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                        @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                        What are you using the 🌶 scan to provide?

                        PC info and Network info. Ticketing as well. I know SodiumSuite does all that as well.

                        It does indeed.

                        As other conversations have been had with you on this it doesn't do Network switches or phones though, correct?

                        If not, will that be a feature that will happen?

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @WLS-ITGuy
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                          @wls-itguy Does the scanner from 🌶 inventory these systems?

                          I thought SodiumSuite does but I'd defer that to @Sodium to answer.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @WLS-ITGuy
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                            @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                            @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                            What are you using the 🌶 scan to provide?

                            PC info and Network info. Ticketing as well. I know SodiumSuite does all that as well.

                            It does indeed.

                            As other conversations have been had with you on this it doesn't do Network switches or phones though, correct?

                            If not, will that be a feature that will happen?

                            No, does not scan devices on which it cannot be installed.

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                            • WLS-ITGuyW
                              WLS-ITGuy @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                              @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                              @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                              What are you using the 🌶 scan to provide?

                              PC info and Network info. Ticketing as well. I know SodiumSuite does all that as well.

                              It does indeed.

                              As other conversations have been had with you on this it doesn't do Network switches or phones though, correct?

                              If not, will that be a feature that will happen?

                              No, does not scan devices on which it cannot be installed.

                              I guess with having PRTG that really wouldn't be needed.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @WLS-ITGuy
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                                @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                                @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                                @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                                What are you using the 🌶 scan to provide?

                                PC info and Network info. Ticketing as well. I know SodiumSuite does all that as well.

                                It does indeed.

                                As other conversations have been had with you on this it doesn't do Network switches or phones though, correct?

                                If not, will that be a feature that will happen?

                                No, does not scan devices on which it cannot be installed.

                                I guess with having PRTG that really wouldn't be needed.

                                Correct, you'd already be covered there.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @WLS-ITGuy
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                                  @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                                  @jaredbusch said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                                  @wls-itguy are you actually trying to make a separate subnet or just organize them in a section of you existing subnet?

                                  If I could organize them within the subnet so 172.16.1.x/16 is the range and if all phones (FreePBX system) could get 172.16.5.x and all PCs goes 172.16.1.x range that would be great. I don't think that is possible though.

                                  You can setup DHCP reservations for all the phones easily enough. It is manual, but not hard.

                                  Assuming windows DHCP

                                  dhcp server \\172.16.1.?? scope 172.16.1.0 add reservedip 172.16.5.X MACADDRES "ext101" "" "BOTH"
                                  

                                  And repeat for all the phones.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                                    @jaredbusch said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                                    @wls-itguy said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                                    @jaredbusch said in DHCP ranges seperate for IP Phones and PCs?:

                                    @wls-itguy are you actually trying to make a separate subnet or just organize them in a section of you existing subnet?

                                    If I could organize them within the subnet so 172.16.1.x/16 is the range and if all phones (FreePBX system) could get 172.16.5.x and all PCs goes 172.16.1.x range that would be great. I don't think that is possible though.

                                    You can setup DHCP reservations for all the phones easily enough. It is manual, but not hard.

                                    Assuming windows DHCP

                                    dhcp server \\172.16.1.?? scope 172.16.1.0 add reservedip 172.16.5.X MACADDRES "ext101" "" "BOTH"
                                    

                                    And repeat for all the phones.

                                    This could very easily be drafted into an excel doc as well so each line doesn't need to be manually typed again and again.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      Windows DHCP server scopes can do some stuff with MAC address filtering too, but you still have to explicitly define everything, so I prefer to just use DHCP reservations.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch
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                                        here it he powershell method.

                                        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/dhcpserver/add-dhcpserverv4reservation?view=win10-ps

                                        Add-DhcpServerv4Reservation -ScopeId 10.10.10.0 -IPAddress 10.10.10.8 -ClientId "F0-DE-F1-7A-00-5E" -Description "Reservation for Printer"`
                                        
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