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    Toshiba OCZ PCIe SSD Z-Drive 4500

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/11/toshibaocz_outs_pcie_flasher/

      This looks pretty awesome. At 3+ TB options you could be using one of these instead of a whole server full of drives. Perfect for big databases.

      Although at that price it is $16K USD.

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      • thanksajdotcomT
        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/11/toshibaocz_outs_pcie_flasher/

        This looks pretty awesome. At 3+ TB options you could be using one of these instead of a whole server full of drives. Perfect for big databases.

        Although at that price it is $16K USD.

        Dang...that's just awesome! However, yea, at that price, it better be...

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          This makes 1U massive servers very possible.

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          • thanksajdotcomT
            thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller True. Very true.

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            • RoguePacketR
              RoguePacket
              last edited by

              Always liked OCZ, good to see they are still crafting interesting product.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                what do you do in terms of safety? two of them RAID 1?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender You can do RAID 1 but typically you do nothing. One of these is as reliable as a normal RAID array. The need for RAID is greatly reduced.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller I'm sure you have an explanation for that. Care to share?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller I'm sure you have an explanation for that. Care to share?

                      No magic. It's just more solidly made. Spinning drives aren't hard to beat in reliability.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        So you're saying they are kinda like RAID controllers themselves? So reliable that you just don't worry about them? Just be prepared with your backups as you always should be.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          Are we there yet with Enterprise SSDs? would it be safe to do RAID 0 SSDs?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            Are we there yet with Enterprise SSDs? would it be safe to do RAID 0 SSDs?

                            Enterprise SSD are extremely safe. Putting them in RAID 0 would remain reckless in most cases.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by Dashrender

                              Assuming you don't want to drop $16K for that OCZ, how do you go about getting a 2 TB single drive or larger? I've never understood has JOBD work, maybe that's the answer?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Assuming you don't want to drop $16K for that OCZ, how do you go about getting a 2 TB single drive or larger? I've never understood has JOBD work, maybe that's the answer?

                                Big SSDs are starting to come on the market. PCIe super huge high end cards are the fastest and safest. They are the ones being designed around standalone use primarily.

                                With SAS and SATA attached lower cost drives you will typically be looking at using RAID still - but at far lower costs.

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                                • DashrenderD
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                                  I suppose the sites you're accustomed to working in are used to spending large dollars for fast arrays.

                                  In the end it's all relative.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    I suppose the sites you're accustomed to working in are used to spending large dollars for fast arrays.

                                    In the end it's all relative.

                                    What makes the drive here interesting is that it could easily replace a 24 drive 15K array. It costs more but not tons more and uses far less power, is much, much faster, has less capacity but not by a ridiculous margin and fits into a smaller chassis which often reduces monthly rack costs.

                                    Put it all together and even many SMBs might find it a potential solution.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      If you don't have a big database need, likely a PCIe SSD isn't for you. This is really for massive database acceleration primarily.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        If you don't have a big database need, likely a PCIe SSD isn't for you. This is really for massive database acceleration primarily.

                                        Agreed, I've never worked in situations that come even close to needing something like this.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          For a more normal SMB wanting a sweet database setup you would more likely get two SATA SSD in RAID 1 for under $600 and blow the doors off anything you've ever seen.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?

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