clear linux, how to run as vm?
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The only reason i am interested is that in just about all benchmarks it is the Clear winner. But if i cant just boot an iso image and install it, that kind of makes it worthless.
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@momurda said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
The only reason i am interested is that in just about all benchmarks it is the Clear winner. But if i cant just boot an iso image and install it, that kind of makes it worthless.
The instructions that I've read is using a pre-built image when running as a VM.
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@black3dynamite said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
@momurda said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
The only reason i am interested is that in just about all benchmarks it is the Clear winner. But if i cant just boot an iso image and install it, that kind of makes it worthless.
The instructions that I've read is using a pre-built image when running as a VM.
Do they have a pre-built image for KVM or XEN?
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@black3dynamite said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
@momurda said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
The only reason i am interested is that in just about all benchmarks it is the Clear winner. But if i cant just boot an iso image and install it, that kind of makes it worthless.
The instructions that I've read is using a pre-built image when running as a VM.
This.
The entire clear linux image, comes pre-built for you. On a set of specific hypervisors. None of their images or instructions say "build it yourself".
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@momurda said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
The only reason i am interested is that in just about all benchmarks it is the Clear winner. But if i cant just boot an iso image and install it, that kind of makes it worthless.
It's a very special case OS.
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@travisdh1 said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
@black3dynamite said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
@momurda said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
The only reason i am interested is that in just about all benchmarks it is the Clear winner. But if i cant just boot an iso image and install it, that kind of makes it worthless.
The instructions that I've read is using a pre-built image when running as a VM.
Do they have a pre-built image for KVM or XEN?
KVM.
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They have a generic image. Looking at it right now. In fact they have 2, an installer only and Live.
Neither boot in virtualbox or XS. I dont use esxi or hyperv. My kvm test hosts are off until a new ups gets here in a couple days. -
@momurda said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
They have a generic image. Looking at it right now. In fact they have 2, an installer only and Live.
Neither boot in virtualbox or XS. I dont use esxi or hyperv. My kvm test hosts are off until a new ups gets here in a couple days.Then use VirtualBox.
https://clearlinux.org/documentation/clear-linux/get-started/virtual-machine-install/virtualbox
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@travisdh1 said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
@black3dynamite said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
@momurda said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
The only reason i am interested is that in just about all benchmarks it is the Clear winner. But if i cant just boot an iso image and install it, that kind of makes it worthless.
The instructions that I've read is using a pre-built image when running as a VM.
Do they have a pre-built image for KVM or XEN?
Here's a list of what is available.
https://download.clearlinux.org/current/ -
Does Clear Linux only work on Intel Architecture?
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Not worth the time, if it doesnt boot off an iso image without customization, bye bye. So bye, clear.
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@black3dynamite said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
Does Clear Linux only work on Intel Architecture?
That is the focus of it, yes. Intel Architecture driven.
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@black3dynamite said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
Does Clear Linux only work on Intel Architecture?
Nope, it works well with AMD. Phoronix has a benchmarking article, it smokes all other distros with AMD Epycs/Ryzen.
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@black3dynamite said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
Does Clear Linux only work on Intel Architecture?
Actually, it only works on AMD64. It doesn't run on IA64 at all. Intel likes to call AMD64 "Intel Architecture" to confuse customers. But the only current Intel Architectures are IA32 (low end Atom chips) and IA64 (Itanium that is about to be discontinued.) All systems you know of from AMD or Intel are AMD64.
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@scottalanmiller said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
@black3dynamite said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
Does Clear Linux only work on Intel Architecture?
Actually, it only works on AMD64. It doesn't run on IA64 at all. Intel likes to call AMD64 "Intel Architecture" to confuse customers. But the only current Intel Architectures are IA32 (low end Atom chips) and IA64 (Itanium that is about to be discontinued.) All systems you know of from AMD or Intel are AMD64.
I just noticed on each page for setting it up, put a lot effort into repeating it over and over again.
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@black3dynamite said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
@scottalanmiller said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
@black3dynamite said in clear linux, how to run as vm?:
Does Clear Linux only work on Intel Architecture?
Actually, it only works on AMD64. It doesn't run on IA64 at all. Intel likes to call AMD64 "Intel Architecture" to confuse customers. But the only current Intel Architectures are IA32 (low end Atom chips) and IA64 (Itanium that is about to be discontinued.) All systems you know of from AMD or Intel are AMD64.
I just noticed on each page for setting it up, put a lot effort into repeating it over and over again.
Yup, it's all marketing.
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For us KVM users, it would have been a lot easier to deploy it if it was a virt-builder image.
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For those old enough, you will remember the big "Genuine Intel" and "AMD Clone" stuff of the 1990s and 2000s. Well, since AMD64 is the architecture now and Intel is the clone, they have a lot of their own marketing to live down. Now it's genuine AMD and Intel is the clone. So decades of mocking clones as being garbage and only the owner of an architecture is supposed to be any good, Intel is now the clone and will be for the indefinite future - no one expects a new architecture to come for a really long time. So now Intel tries to pretend that they are somehow involved in the architecture when they were so adamantly opposed to the idea when it was first introduced and would have nothing to do with it.
It should be called the "in spite of Intel architecture."
