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    AD Issue ... Windows 10 or the Domain?

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      I'd check your AD health, there is very likely an issue that needs to be addressed.

      Being server 2003 though, I personally wouldn't touch it.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill
        last edited by

        LOL, yeah I don't really have a choice.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          DCDIAG results...

          Domain Controller Diagnosis
          
          Performing initial setup:
             Done gathering initial info.
          
          Doing initial required tests
          
             Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\DC04
                Starting test: Connectivity
                   ......................... DC04 passed test Connectivity
          
          Doing primary tests
          
             Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\DC04
                Starting test: Replications
                   ......................... DC04 passed test Replications
                Starting test: NCSecDesc
                   ......................... DC04 passed test NCSecDesc
                Starting test: NetLogons
                   ......................... DC04 passed test NetLogons
                Starting test: Advertising
                   ......................... DC04 passed test Advertising
                Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
                   ......................... DC04 passed test KnowsOfRoleHolders
                Starting test: RidManager
                   ......................... DC04 passed test RidManager
                Starting test: MachineAccount
                   ......................... DC04 passed test MachineAccount
                Starting test: Services
                   ......................... DC04 passed test Services
                Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
                   ......................... DC04 passed test ObjectsReplicated
                Starting test: frssysvol
                   ......................... DC04 passed test frssysvol
                Starting test: frsevent
                   ......................... DC04 passed test frsevent
                Starting test: kccevent
                   ......................... DC04 passed test kccevent
                Starting test: systemlog
                   ......................... DC04 passed test systemlog
                Starting test: VerifyReferences
                   ......................... DC04 passed test VerifyReferences
          
             Running partition tests on : DomainDnsZones
                Starting test: CrossRefValidation
                   ......................... DomainDnsZones passed test CrossRefValidation
                Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
                   ......................... DomainDnsZones passed test CheckSDRefDom
          
             Running partition tests on : ForestDnsZones
                Starting test: CrossRefValidation
                   ......................... ForestDnsZones passed test CrossRefValidation
                Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
                   ......................... ForestDnsZones passed test CheckSDRefDom
          
             Running partition tests on : Schema
                Starting test: CrossRefValidation
                   ......................... Schema passed test CrossRefValidation
                Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
                   ......................... Schema passed test CheckSDRefDom
          
             Running partition tests on : Configuration
                Starting test: CrossRefValidation
                   ......................... Configuration passed test CrossRefValidation
                Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
                   ......................... Configuration passed test CheckSDRefDom
          
             Running partition tests on : brra
                Starting test: CrossRefValidation
                   ......................... brra passed test CrossRefValidation
                Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
                   ......................... brra passed test CheckSDRefDom
          
             Running enterprise tests on : brra.com
                Starting test: Intersite
                   ......................... brra.com passed test Intersite
                Starting test: FsmoCheck
                   ......................... brra.com passed test FsmoCheck
          
          
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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
            last edited by

            I think I have found the culprit.

            When I added the most recent DC, I demoted another one, named ORCA.(I am a JAWS fan, what can I say?)

            In DCDIAG DNS testing, that server is still listed, and as an error. I looked through the AD DNS and noticed it is still in there in multiple places.

            Is it safe/proper to delete all orphaned entries/mentions of that?

            From DCDIAG:

                        DNS server: 10.0.2.1 (orca.domain.com.)
                           2 test failures on this DNS server
                           This is not a valid DNS server. PTR record query for the 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. failed on the DNS server 10.0.2.1
                           [Error details: 1460 (Type: Win32 - Description: This operation returned because the timeout period expired.)]
                           Delegation is broken for the domain _msdcs.domain.com. on the DNS server 10.0.2.1
                           [Error details: 1460 (Type: Win32 - Description: This operation returned because the timeout period expired.) - Delegation is broken for the domain _msdcs.domain.com. on the DNS server 10.0.2.1]
            
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            • dbeatoD
              dbeato @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @brrabill said in AD Issue ... Windows 10 or the Domain?:

              I think I have found the culprit.

              When I added the most recent DC, I demoted another one, named ORCA.(I am a JAWS fan, what can I say?)

              In DCDIAG DNS testing, that server is still listed, and as an error. I looked through the AD DNS and noticed it is still in there in multiple places.

              Is it safe/proper to delete all orphaned entries/mentions of that?

              From DCDIAG:

                          DNS server: 10.0.2.1 (orca.domain.com.)
                             2 test failures on this DNS server
                             This is not a valid DNS server. PTR record query for the 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. failed on the DNS server 10.0.2.1
                             [Error details: 1460 (Type: Win32 - Description: This operation returned because the timeout period expired.)]
                             Delegation is broken for the domain _msdcs.domain.com. on the DNS server 10.0.2.1
                             [Error details: 1460 (Type: Win32 - Description: This operation returned because the timeout period expired.) - Delegation is broken for the domain _msdcs.domain.com. on the DNS server 10.0.2.1]
              

              yes, it is okay to removed them. I have been cleaning AD DNS for a long time and this always happens. Yesterday I did the same for a domain that had this issue for months.

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              • dbeatoD
                dbeato @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @brrabill said in AD Issue ... Windows 10 or the Domain?:

                Still on "Server 2003"

                I know, I know ... working as fast as I can to get all this upgraded.

                Literally almost to the point of being able to upgrade to 2016, but had a few road bumps, and now this road bump.

                That doesn't affect functionality on the domain also. I would just make sure there is no other Server 2003 as a DC and upgrade to the lowest DC OS you have.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  When you run dcdiag /dns ... do you get errors with the root servers, such as this?

                  DNS server: 198.41.0.4 (a.root-servers.net.)
                  2 test failures on this DNS server
                  This is not a valid DNS server. PTR record query for the 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. failed on the DNS server 198.41.0.4
                  [Error details: 9002 (Type: Win32 - Description: DNS server failure.)]

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @brrabill said in AD Issue ... Windows 10 or the Domain?:

                    When you run dcdiag /dns ... do you get errors with the root servers, such as this?

                    DNS server: 198.41.0.4 (a.root-servers.net.)
                    2 test failures on this DNS server
                    This is not a valid DNS server. PTR record query for the 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. failed on the DNS server 198.41.0.4
                    [Error details: 9002 (Type: Win32 - Description: DNS server failure.)]

                    No, I don't

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      I had it on all the root hint servers, and also the forwarders.

                        The A record for this DC was found
                        The SOA record for the Active Directory zone was found
                        The Active Directory zone on this DC/DNS server was found
                        Root zone on this DC/DNS server was not found
                      
                        TEST: Forwarders/Root hints (Forw)
                                 Recursion is enabled
                                 Root hint Information:
                                    Name: a.root-servers.net. IP: 198.41.0.4 [Invalid]
                                    Name: b.root-servers.net. IP: 192.228.79.201 [Invalid]
                                    Name: b.root-servers.net. IP: 199.9.14.201 [Invalid]
                                    Name: c.root-servers.net. IP: 192.33.4.12 [Invalid]
                                    Name: d.root-servers.net. IP: 199.7.91.13 [Invalid]
                                    Name: e.root-servers.net. IP: 192.203.230.10 [Invalid]
                                    Name: f.root-servers.net. IP: 192.5.5.241 [Invalid]
                                    Name: g.root-servers.net. IP: 192.112.36.4 [Valid]
                                    Name: h.root-servers.net. IP: 198.97.190.53 [Invalid]
                                    Name: i.root-servers.net. IP: 192.36.148.17 [Invalid]
                                    Name: j.root-servers.net. IP: 192.58.128.30 [Invalid]
                                    Name: k.root-servers.net. IP: 193.0.14.129 [Invalid]
                                    Name: l.root-servers.net. IP: 199.7.83.42 [Invalid]
                                    Name: m.root-servers.net. IP: 202.12.27.33 [Invalid]
                      
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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        Well, except for "G" ... WTH?

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          BTW:

                          Turns out the issue was a 1803 thing.

                          Maybe it is just my environment, but have never had to enable SMB1 before.

                          Though I did have a couple errors in DNS that I also fixed while I was in there.

                          And of course the errors above that I posted. Though everything is working perfectly.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @brrabill said in AD Issue ... Windows 10 or the Domain?:

                            BTW:

                            Turns out the issue was a 1803 thing.

                            Maybe it is just my environment, but have never had to enable SMB1 before.

                            Though I did have a couple errors in DNS that I also fixed while I was in there.

                            And of course the errors above that I posted. Though everything is working perfectly.

                            SMBv1 Is recently just disabled on all new windows systems

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @jaredbusch said in AD Issue ... Windows 10 or the Domain?:

                              @brrabill said in AD Issue ... Windows 10 or the Domain?:

                              BTW:

                              Turns out the issue was a 1803 thing.

                              Maybe it is just my environment, but have never had to enable SMB1 before.

                              Though I did have a couple errors in DNS that I also fixed while I was in there.

                              And of course the errors above that I posted. Though everything is working perfectly.

                              SMBv1 Is recently just disabled on all new windows systems

                              Probably why this is the first time I have seen it.

                              And assuming any upgrades would just keep it.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                BTW: those DNS errors were caused by using an older version of DCDIAG, apparently.

                                Installed newest version and it works like a charm.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @jaredbusch I've heard this before, but has anyone actually checked to see if it is disabled.

                                  On 2016 that we just recently deployed it is active by default when configuring it as a file server.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    I had to go into the Features section of the 1803 client (fresh install) and enable it.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      It also warned that the share (when trying to connect to the domain) was insecure and SMB1.

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                                      • dbeatoD
                                        dbeato @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @dustinb3403 said in AD Issue ... Windows 10 or the Domain?:

                                        @jaredbusch I've heard this before, but has anyone actually checked to see if it is disabled.

                                        On 2016 that we just recently deployed it is active by default when configuring it as a file server.

                                        0_1525874957911_RDCMan_2018-05-09_10-08-24.png

                                        It is disabled by default on RS3 of Server 2016 onwards.

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                                        • dbeatoD
                                          dbeato @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @brrabill said in AD Issue ... Windows 10 or the Domain?:

                                          I had to go into the Features section of the 1803 client (fresh install) and enable it.

                                          Yeah, makes sense since Server 2003 still uses SMBv1.

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                                          • IRJI
                                            IRJ
                                            last edited by IRJ

                                            I hate to be rude, but using 2003 as DCs is asking the company and IT to bend over and just take it. I would seriously question IT and business leadership for making this decision.

                                            EOL was over 4 years ago!!!!!! seroiously WTF is your company doing? and like @JaredBusch said at least dont use it for DCs?

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